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yazzy1233 t1_j6iwbrj wrote
Isn't season 3 already filmed
Digess t1_j6iwndj wrote
I mean expected cos aside from The Duke and I, which was s1, Daphne is barely in besides as a background character
WordsAreSomething t1_j6iwuk1 wrote
"cancel one of your most successful shows"
Genius stuff
Greedy-Creme-995 t1_j6iwyhf wrote
Funny you say that, as it seems to be Netflix’s current strategy.
Digess t1_j6ixgsp wrote
still being filmed but close to ending i might assume
WordsAreSomething t1_j6ixo8q wrote
It seems like the literal opposite of their strategy
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Greedy-Creme-995 t1_j6iy0ny wrote
Oh I’m sorry, were you present in their strategy meetings??
Regula96 t1_j6iy1wj wrote
Alright and in your opinion which one of their ''most successful shows'' have they cancelled exactly?
WordsAreSomething t1_j6iy8ag wrote
They literally just had an interview with the CEOs talking about their strategy.
You can also look at what they've renewed and canceled and get an idea of how successful things are with their top 10s.
Greedy-Creme-995 t1_j6iyc6k wrote
The Babysitter's Club
The OA
Glow
I Am Not Okay With This
Santa Clarita Diet
Greedy-Creme-995 t1_j6iyeat wrote
Oh so they will just keep 10 shows and fuck the rest
WordsAreSomething t1_j6iyns1 wrote
They will keep shows that have the right audience for their budget while trying out new shows to reach people and cancelling what isn't working.
The same as every TV distributor ever since the beginning of TV
Greedy-Creme-995 t1_j6iyprh wrote
You are so patronizing.
Digess t1_j6iz9oo wrote
no, she just doesnt have a story anymore after s1, same with RJP, they become background characters as each book focuses on someone else
Regula96 t1_j6izid6 wrote
I'm not seeing any of these among any top lists going by released numbers. Sucks but seems they didn't do well enough.
Similar-Collar1007 t1_j6izivt wrote
I swear half of this sub are either Netflix hating bots or just stupid
Greedy-Creme-995 t1_j6izksa wrote
Youre blind
Greedy-Creme-995 t1_j6izlpv wrote
Shut up Netflix shill
Regula96 t1_j6j044t wrote
Listen, I agree they're doing too much content at the same time and are thus forced to cancel a lot of things. It sucks.
But these shows in particular are not any of their ''most successful shows''.
Also, Bridgerton apparently did even better than The Witcher and Stranger Things season 3. It's a massive hit.
Strelochka t1_j6j0a6y wrote
Locks them up for ages and takes them away from other potentially successful projects. For a couple of seasons at its peak Downton abbey had the mortality rate of a medieval village going through the Black Death, as everyone was trying to break out into movies
Similar-Collar1007 t1_j6j0z5s wrote
No I have issues with Netflix Netflix fucking sucks at marketing movies and shows I think Netflix is stupid for not doing theatrical releases and Netflix is terribly inconsistent on content especially movies but just lying and spreading shit about how they cancel everything and you have to have stranger things or Wednesday numbers is untrue and makes people like you look bad
Greedy-Creme-995 t1_j6j16fa wrote
Your logic: “oh two good shows are still on” hurrrr durrr
NLP19 t1_j6j27ht wrote
Well her story was basically over after Season 1, so it's not a huge loss
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-SandorClegane- t1_j6j2lhn wrote
Same troll appearing in multiple threads and y'all keep feeding him, smh.
wheelybinhead t1_j6j2maz wrote
Have you ever watched TV before?
Regula96 t1_j6j3j43 wrote
>Netflix fucking sucks at marketing movies and shows
It's like when they released Archive 81 in January when it would have been a perfect Halloween show. I remember it was just there one day when I logged in. I never saw anything promoting it.
They have the ability to make a lot of their content more successful but they don't care. If something doesn't become a hit on its own, they just start over and try something new. Rinse and repeat.
tinasnow-poty t1_j6j3m5i wrote
Surely by the last season there will be no background characters if everyone follows their lead?
Similar-Collar1007 t1_j6j4jap wrote
Yep agreed marketing is a perfectly fair place to criticize some of these people just say they cancel everything and it’s not true a lot of these shows they do cancel might be successful with better marketing I will admit though
Digess t1_j6j4kxe wrote
they'll continue making stories for background characters if their character wants to stay, like the featheringtons
Similar-Collar1007 t1_j6j4nis wrote
My mistake didn’t even realize was same person
Altruistic_Yam1372 t1_j6j4yvu wrote
Okay so earlier Ruby Stokes left her role in Bridgerton to star in Lockwood and co - a netflix adaptation of books by Jonathan Stroud.
And Phoebe Dynevor will also be playing the lead role in another of Stroud's adaptations - The Outlaws Scarlett and Browne (movie)
Altruistic_Yam1372 t1_j6j5mj1 wrote
What, really? They are patronising for spelling out the truth? No, really. You can say that netflix is cancelling 'good' shows. But they certainly aren't cancelling 'successful' shows. Note that success depends not only on the number of viewers, bug also the budget. The viewership needs to justify the budget.
I'm not saying they're entirely correct on this, as many shows require a few seasons to garner significant viewership, and also ending shows that ended in cliffhangers is also poor decisionmaking
im_a_dick_head t1_j6j63so wrote
Makeup exists
Owasso_Landman t1_j6j6kqm wrote
You’re surprised actors are attractive?
lightsongtheold t1_j6j77e2 wrote
The books series is basically set up to make the TV series in an anthology format. Each book focuses on the romance of a new Bridgerton sibling with the others just playing small supporting roles, making cameo appearances, or no appearance at all.
It is a typical romance book series format which does not tend to gel with serialised TV shows where folks expect the same cast for the duration of the series. Which is why folks are shocked the leads from previous seasons are not returning for later seasons. Their stories are done.
AstralComet t1_j6j8jxz wrote
Yeah, I get it, but I'm a little surprised Netflix can't snag the actors with "finished plotlines" for a few cameos here and there, to at least make the world feel like those elder siblings who are now married don't just stop existing.
muad_dibs t1_j6jh7oj wrote
Those actors are probably moving on to other projects, where there would pay likely be scheduling conflicts.
HighKingOfGondor t1_j6jmu9d wrote
Not really. In order to NOT get canceled at Netflix, you have to be as big as Wednesday, Stranger Things, or Bridgerton. Netflix constantly canceled niche but really good shows that might take a season or two to catch on, and Netflix terminates those shows too fast. What you’re talking about was never a Netflix complaint and I think you misunderstand the issue with Netflix cancellations in general.
Or you’re trying to be funny in which case haha very good
Greedy-Creme-995 t1_j6jp1n3 wrote
YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING
Similar-Collar1007 t1_j6jpeqj wrote
Glow was because of Covid not because they didn’t like the show costs just went up too much
Similar-Collar1007 t1_j6jpsqn wrote
This just isn’t true the recruit , Lincoln lawyer , Emily in Paris , bunch of the Korean shows , Tim robinsons show , dead to me , all of the reality tv shows alll got renewed because people watched them and completed them so the budgets were justified it’s a business I don’t know how this isn’t understandable Netflix makes hundred of shows and movies a year we only ever focus on what gets canceled and then just ignore what gets renewed the sandman isn’t anywhere close to Wednesday viewership and it got renewed
HighKingOfGondor t1_j6jqk8c wrote
That’s getting deeper into it, yeah. I was just explaining the very basics of the Netflix hate argument related to what he was saying. There’s lots of factors like completion rates, budget, fan reception, popularity, views, individual views, etc to get into. I’m not a Netflix hater despite my comment sounding like one.
Greedy-Creme-995 t1_j6jrurn wrote
Oh, were you there when they cancelled it??? Were you in the meeting room????
Similar-Collar1007 t1_j6jtger wrote
We’re you ? No grow the fuck up https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/glow-season-4-canceled-netflix-1234793186/amp/ quick google search shows every major credible publication reporting on it
Greedy-Creme-995 t1_j6jthxr wrote
Similar-Collar1007 t1_j6jtk9f wrote
Yeah my bad got heated at the other guy sorry
Similar-Collar1007 t1_j6jtq1h wrote
You are being a dick head to me and other users and I’m correcting you not being cranky if you don’t like being corrected don’t say bullshit and then whine when you get called out for it
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HighKingOfGondor t1_j6jvvaf wrote
I’m also very tired of this Netflix circlejerk. They aren’t even getting their own arguments right anymore, although pretty sure that dude is a troll and doesn’t mean it
HappyMeerkat t1_j6jypzy wrote
As someone who liked Downton Abbey but doesn't really watch period dramas is there a chance I'd like this?
OklahomaXx t1_j6k1cse wrote
It depends what portion of Downton you appreciated most.
I am a huge Downton fan and when I watched the first episode of Bridgerton I was almost scared away, because part of what I loved was the historical accuracy, of which there is exactly zero of in Bridgerton. They didn't really advertise this fact, so it took a little while to get into it but by episode 3 I was really enjoying it.
If you enjoyed the elaborate set pieces, costumes and the drama, you will absolutely love Bridgerton. They have all of that.
Hex457 t1_j6kdwik wrote
Oh I like strouds books will have to check out.
Hex457 t1_j6kedva wrote
Thanks for that, maded me look up Garth Nix as well and see they have sequel out soon. Stoked.
Cheers!
Loki1947 t1_j6kh3f1 wrote
Kind of a weird issue the show will face, which is every book focuses on a different sibling and then their story is done, meaning the actor will have nothing to do for another six or seven seasons. And since actors want to act, there's the risk they'll keep losing cast members.
They're supposed to give Anthony and Kate a storyline this season, so we'll see how it goes.
wiklr t1_j6kot59 wrote
Keeping them in contract for x years get expensive. Most actors also want to move to other roles without being pigeonholed to one for too long.
DisneyDreams7 t1_j6kxddp wrote
Which is stupid since cameos provide a lot of free time for actors. This seems like burned bridges, similar to Rege Jean page
slipperyMonkey07 t1_j6ky52v wrote
As the other poster said it will depend on what you liked about Downton. I would probably classify bridgerton more as light hearted rom com historical "fantasy / alt reality" while downton is squarely period drama. There are down moments in bridgerton but it never hits downton levels and is more aimed at the romance happily ever after type stuff.
After that I would say S1 and S2 if Bridgeton are different types of romance because of the characters they are focused on. Personally I prefer S2 the characters fit better together and it is more a rom com hate to love and them actually building a relationship. While S1 is clueless inexperienced virgin learning about sex. I haven't read the books but from friends who have it makes sense in that the season 2 characters are basically heads of the house and constant while the other characters slowly vanish as they get married off.
Either way not going to say it is the best tv by any means. But it is something a bit lighter, short and easily binge able when you need a break from the constant the world is on fire mess.
Signiference t1_j6kzv2z wrote
If you liked gossip girl, you’d like this, because this show is Victorian era gossip girl.
Couldnotbehelpd t1_j6l1zly wrote
Rege Jean Page knew that signing on to other shit instead of making cameos on this show was the move. You have like 10 minutes to capitalize on your fame and that’s it. Sticking around would only hurt your career.
cookiemonster247 t1_j6l2fid wrote
I actually thought the girls in the show were pretty ugly. In fact i can’t think of one attractive woman in the show
intheNIGHTintheDARK t1_j6lb9gw wrote
What is he doing now?
jimbobdonut t1_j6lbulc wrote
He’s in the new Dungeons and Dragons movie.
wrosecrans t1_j6lcopf wrote
The Dungeons and Dragons movie.
aw-un t1_j6lf0se wrote
Depends on the contract for the actor really.
intheNIGHTintheDARK t1_j6lgb63 wrote
lol. Imagine leaving a hit Netflix show for that movie.
barkbarkkrabkrab t1_j6ll33n wrote
Maybe? I really really didn't like season 1 but season 2, while still being more Gossip Girl than Jane Austen, at least had some Pride and Prejudice vibes and seems to use its fantasy England setting more appropriately.
thebiggesthater420 t1_j6lmodv wrote
Lmfao what? Is this your first time ever watching a tv show?
OneGoodRib t1_j6lzgmv wrote
I know her character is barely in the books after the first one anyway, but I never understand this kind of move - you're really SO BUSY that you can't film for like one day once a year for this show?
QuintoBlanco t1_j6m01z3 wrote
The trailers for the movie have been well-received.
intheNIGHTintheDARK t1_j6m25vl wrote
It’s gonna bomb though.
QuintoBlanco t1_j6m4deq wrote
If the movie is a flop, but gets decent reviews, the industry will blame Chris Pine, not Regé-Jean Page.
Because Regé-Jean Page isn't an established movie actor.
If the movie is a succes, he'll get a bunch of job offers out of that.
He was never going to play a big part in the second season of Bridgerton.
WordsWithSam t1_j6mghu2 wrote
Netflix behaves like old Hollywood studios with regular players. Popular actors in their shows tend to get opportunities in other Netflix shows/movies when they stick around.
DisneyDreams7 t1_j6mh32x wrote
They all had the same contract, so not really
aw-un t1_j6mtnig wrote
What do you mean?
You said cameos provide actors with a lot of free time. I said that depends on the contract. If she renewed, that would mean she may have been committed to Bridgerton the entire time it filmed. We can’t really know what her contract would have stipulated
nayapapaya t1_j6mu2tv wrote
Bridgerton is based on a series of romance novels and the show has really leaned into the fizziness that a good historical romance can give you. It is not historically accurate, it's not that realistic and it's not trying to be. It's largely a romantic fantasy with period trappings and some fun family squabbles to boot. If you would like that, then definitely check out the show. I've enjoyed both seasons but I read the novels so I went in knowing what to expect. It's not like Downton and it's not going for that vibe or tone at all.
itsadoubledion t1_j6mxqo5 wrote
If they're committed to other projects filming for those takes priority. They're not going to plan an entire production schedule around it
BlancoDelRio t1_j6ohayc wrote
Eh, if the movie is forgettable and he hasn't signed on more since, he too will be...
JohnnyAK907 t1_j6pgei2 wrote
Because Season Two was dog splat that flew hard under the radar after the only reason people watched left. Phoebe needs to give her manager a raise for that sound advice.
JohnnyAK907 t1_j6pgzvf wrote
I just spit water all over my iPad. Well received by WHOM? DnD fans were trashing it even before the OGL apocalypse, and Normies have been as indifferent to it as any other late winter/early spring release.
Opening weekend might not be horrible thanks to Chris Pine fans, but after that it's toast.
Greedy-Creme-995 t1_j6iw52e wrote
Cancel the show