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capodecina2 t1_j1vmuw1 wrote

Its lazy. They dont try to push a story, they try to push an agenda. Its "woke" but the storylines arent good, its not engaging, its usually forced, and you feel that you *have* to like it or else something is wrong with you. From the producers perspective, they can churn out whatever garbage they want and if people don't like it, its because there is something wrong with the viewer. You cant disagree with that because then there is something wrong with you.

Give us a good story, give us something engaging. Give us something entertaining. Put THAT first and keep the social wokeness out of it. I don't give a damn if the lead is female or a person of color or gay or trans or likes furries or is autistic or whatever else the woke agenda of the day is. I want a good story. And if the people telling that story and acting out that story are from whatever "special population" then fine, I don't really care. If its part of the story, that's cool too. IF its a good story.

But don't tell me that I have to like some movie just because it had an all female cast or all gay director/producer, or all whatever whatever, and that if I don't like the movie - its not because it was a shit movie, it has to be because I'm not tolerant of something or other.

Id love to see something and say "now that was a cool story, a good movie, I liked it. and then someone tell me that "did you know that the writing team and producers and directors were all blah blah blah whatever?" Oh cool, no I didn't know that. Nor did I care, it was a good movie/show.

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[deleted] OP t1_j1vndny wrote

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capodecina2 t1_j1vo3xi wrote

I assume you mean "you" in a general sense, and not specifically aimed at me personally. I don't recall personally doing any of what you outlined.

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HardDriveAndWingMan t1_j1vpzkp wrote

That’s weird I’ve watched a lot of movies with black, women or gay leads and never felt like I had to like it.

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capodecina2 t1_j1vr9sp wrote

I’ve seen a lot of shows that I didn’t enjoy, because I thought the story was weak only to be told that apparently the reason I didn’t find it enjoyable must’ve been because it had a female lead or something like that, which never occurred to me.

My point was that some shows/movies don’t put in the effort of developing good characters and good stories, and then when people don’t like it, they say its because the character wasn’t some old white dude or something. It’s an excuse for poor story writing.

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HardDriveAndWingMan t1_j1vt2bn wrote

Literally no one disagrees outside extremist weirdos. Remember when Billy Eichner pulled this with Bros? Virtually everyone in any comment section was like no dude it was just a boring movie.

Just out of curiosity what did you think when it came out the RoP had a black elf?

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capodecina2 t1_j1vtywb wrote

I have no idea what RoP is.

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HardDriveAndWingMan t1_j1vu4o5 wrote

Rings of Power, Lord of the Rings show on Amazon that’s been referenced several times in this post and comment section.

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capodecina2 t1_j1vws22 wrote

Oh, thank you I was actually wondering. No I haven’t seen it. Been binge watching old Star Trek Deep Space Nine

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HardDriveAndWingMan t1_j1vyhs7 wrote

Well if you have no opinion as you haven’t seen it then cheers. From what I remember a month or so before RoP was released it came out there was a black elf, and a lot of people were very mad about it and called it bad writing… for a show that none of them had seen yet. Always thought that was kind of funny and proof that a lot of people will say it’s the writing when it has nothing to do with the writing.

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