Watched it and thought it was pretty good. Deviates from the novel, but seems to be in the same spirit.

There’s an irony here that the most stressful part of this show is everything happening in the present. The neighbors, Dana’s aunt/uncle, Kevin’s sister. 2016 is so chaotic lol

Yeah, it's been a while since I've read it, but the present timeline isn't anything like this in the book, right? I'm not sure if my memory is bad or if they've just changed a bunch of things. I thought she was married to Kevin, not like, just meeting him when the time traveling starts? And I don't remember the move from Brooklyn to LA, or the drama with the aunt and uncle, the neighbors, etc. Or Olivia in 1815??

I haven't read the novel, but now I want to. Thoroughly enjoyed that! A bit disappointed that its going to be a continuing series - who knows when we'll get the next season.

I’ve never read the book, so I don’t have a frame of reference for any of the changes.

I was excited about this show since we have a black lead traveling through time…but I’m over slave narratives and black trauma. Disappointed

I wish it was a limited series.

They definitely switched it up. I mean for starters in the book present time took place in the 1980’s so all of the modern technology wasn’t present. There was no aunt in the book or mother iirc. Also Kevin was her boyfriend and not a new friend.

same although i have been told by book readers its more than just some black trauma and i know the author is really hyped up so im still gonna give it a chance

one day I will get a black sci fi story that is not involved with race to a degree

Me too because I liked it and now worry that any show I like will be immediately cancelled these days.

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I started the book but could not finish it. The situation in the time jumps to American slavery period are brutal and feel hopeless.

I had recently finished Beloved so I didn't have the mental strength to go through the trauma of slavery second hand again, YMMV.

Had same problem with the recent Underground mini series and season three plus of The Handmaids Tale - I'm not that much of a masochist so it depends on your threshold for empathy/sympathy.

I liked the stories of Octavia Butler's Parable of the Sower/Parable of the Talents and the Xenogenesis books a lot more, because even though there is a lot of traumatic events (post apocalyptic), there is a glimmer of hope more present as well (even if you don't agree with the direction it heads.)

Binti is mostly about conflict with tribes in Africa and species so that might fit the bill for your black sci fi, at least the starting novella. I stopped reading Kindred because I was overwhelmed with the trauma she suffers in slavery times when she inhabits the body of her ancestor - the encounters got worse and worse.

There's also Dahlgren-17 post apocalypse that has some race stuff in it but not black trauma at all and is more about sex because IIRC the writer is working through some experiments with language and his own sexuality/experiences in it, I think it has the most by quantity and detail sex scenes i've ever encountered in a book and it felt repetitious by the end because some of the encounters felt like the same actions again and again.

I’ll look into those thanks

On the opposite end, we don’t want a situation like the Handmaids Tale where they finish the story from the book and then just keep making seasons that get progressively worse.

Definitely. I want three seasons max, even better if they can wrap it up in two tbh. Less worrying about cancellation.

>American slavery period are brutal and feel hopeless. My mother got me into African American authors so I know there are writers who look like me as a kid.

This is the entire point of her horror/thrillers.

Iike you could say the movie get out is an evolution of her brand of horror, except get out ended way nicer than what she would have wrote, because the point of her books is to make you feel something even if she has to have something out of left field be the vehicle.

My favorite Story she wrote is blood child. Sorry for my rant, but I get super excited about her stories getting love. She's been shadowed by the likes of Lovecraft imo.

Where’d this white boyfriend come from 🙄🙄

Do yourself a favor and just read the book.

I was so excited for this adaptation but it deviated in so many ways that do not pay off. I think they should’ve updated the timeframe but stayed true to the source material. The story was already pretty great.

Kevin was her husband!

Now I am too. I just finished it and if they leave it where they left it off at the end, I will boycott FX.

I wish it wasn't a series

Octavia Butler’s Lilith Trilogy is really visceral and imaginative in regards to how far removed sentient life can be, conversations on autonomy, community, sustainability, progress, leadership.

In addition, N.K. Jemisin and Nnedi Okorafor are beloved contemporary sci fi writers whose work fits your description.

I have heard of Jemisin but not Okorafor I’ll look into it

Thanks

they were married in the book and it was also in the 70's so they changed a few things.

I dont like how Dana is all about Rufus. like who cares about that kid, he in a bunch of precarious situations maybe he is meant to die.

Yes. You have a good point. The Leftovers is a good example. It had a beginning a middle and an end. 3 seasons was just enough.

They where together in the book

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The neighbor is way out of control nosy. Serious entitlement issues.

I absolutely loved this series. The characters are very entertaining (Dana/Sarah get on my damn nerves, though), and the complexity of it all rattles me. I binged watched it all in one sitting and hope they bring it back for a second season.

I mean...she has to care about him long enough for him to have a child if she wants to continue to exist.

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The book that this show is based on is one of my favorites of all time. I am so disappointed with the way the show was done. It was so different from the book and not in a good way. It all was just a pale comparison to the real thing,

I kept having to remind myself it’s only based on the book just to keep myself from hating the show

dana did leave their cat in the 1800's

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Idk if Kevin was her boyfriend or husband but they were in a committed relationship for several years before she started disappearing. Having the added complication of Kevin being a stranger makes it worse. :/

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Why does the show title page say "KINDREO" every episode? Anyone else notice this? Surely typing "kindreo" must be intentional? But, why?