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yodimboi t1_ixuraly wrote

Andor is by no means a miniseries. A miniseries is one season long. Anything else is just a series. Also, saying "first season" implies that there is a second or that at least there was supposed to be a second. If I finish first in a race with no other participants did I even finish first? If I asked what are the best first movies, would you reply with Citizen Kane or with The Godfather? The Godfather is the first in a series. I guess you could say Citizen Kane is a debut but that's a different case.

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rocker2014 t1_ixuttn5 wrote

Besides the fact that you ignored the entirety of my post to focus on one small point I was trying to make, I'll still respond to your whole comment.

>Andor is by no means a miniseries. A miniseries is one season long. Anything else is just a series.

The point I was trying to make is that this is a short series with an expiration date already listed. We know it's not going to be a long running series so we know that what we've seen is already half of the entire show. And, we know that it's a prequel to a movie that shows us how everything shakes out. So we have half the series plus the ending. Making it similar to a miniseries that has to show us the beginnings and end. I know a miniseries is one season. I was just making a comparison that Andor is not dissimilar from what a miniseries has to portray therefore can be compared.

>Also, saying "first season" implies that there is a second or that at least there was supposed to be a second.

First off, the OP didn't say first season, I did. You mentioned that a miniseries shouldn't be comparable to a first season of a new show. I made points of how it can be but also stated that regardless of pulling out the two miniseries I listed, that still leaves 8 others that I mentioned.

>If I finish first in a race with no other participants did I even finish first?

I'm not even sure what your analogy means? I'm guessing you mean a miniseries is the participant and since there is only one season there are no other partipants? But we're not comparing a Season 1 to a Season 2 of the same show. So if "We Own This City" and "Dopesick" are the partipants in this conversation, then yes, one of them could win. Or better yet, if "Dopesick" and "Andor" were participants, "Dopesick" would win for me. Or even better yet, if "House of the Dragon", another first season of a new running series, and "Andor" were the participants, "House of the Dragon" wins for me.

>If I asked what are the best first movies, would you reply with Citizen Kane or with The Godfather? The Godfather is the first in a series. I guess you could say Citizen Kane is a debut but that's a different case.

Again, the OP didn't say that it was the best first season of a show in awhile. In which, I'd still disagree. But to your point, are you now saying that The Godfather and Citizen Cane cannot be compared? Or a more logical one, can The Godfather and Goodfellas not be compared because The Godfather is one part of a trilogy? Speaking of Trilogies, can one Star Wars movie not be compared with any other movie because it's part of a series? If you think so, I disagree. Because each of these movies tell a story. They also set up for a future story, but each of them tells its own complete story. So does Andor. So does Dopesick.

But regardless of all of this rambling over one small part of my whole point, take out the two miniseries I listed for sake of argument. I still listed 8 other shows that I believe were better or on the same level as Andor. My point doesn't need the miniseries that I listed. But I do think they are absolutely fair to compare because each tells a story.

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