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WordsAreSomething t1_iy95xyp wrote

Didn't they just recently make a Deadwood movie? Seems like that answers the question.

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rosencrantz2016 OP t1_iy96f71 wrote

Dunno if that's quite the same -- a) three years ago, and b) an established property. Obv, Deadwood hasn't been cancelled.

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reddit455 t1_iy97roe wrote

deadwood could be made today (if 2019 counts)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadwood:_The_Movie#Reception

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Critical response
The film has gained critical acclaim. Review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, reports the film holds a 98% approval rating based on 88 reviews, with an average rating of 8.30/10. The site's critical consensus reads, "A triumphant coda to a beloved series, Deadwood: The Movie will satisfy fans longing for a little f---ing closure."[28] On Metacritic, the film has a weighted average score of 86 out of 100 based on 29 critics, indicating "universal acclaim".[29]
Brian Tallerico of RogerEbert.com gave it a highly positive review, rating it 4 out of 4 stars. He praised the direction by Daniel Minahan, writing, "Some of the best imagery in the entire arc of the show is right here in this movie." He also praised David Milch's writing, stating, "It feels like the product of a creator who fully understands that this is his last creation, but even he refuses to end on an easy note. There can be closure without sentimentality." He called it "a rich 110 minutes of filmmaking that rewards fans without pandering to them."[30]
Ben Travers of IndieWire gave it an "A−" grade and called the film "a bittersweet and brutally honest triumph". He also wrote that the final line of the film "is one of the greatest ever written".[31]

>featuring extreme racism and sexism done in a mannered and seemingly unjudgemental style?

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are movies about slavery "anti-woke" because they're historically accurate?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadwood_(TV_series)

From its debut, Deadwood drew attention for its extensive profanity. The historical accuracy and dramatic intent of its use of obscenities has been the subject of controversy and discussion.[7] The word "fuck" is said 43 times in the first hour of the show.[7] It has been reported that the series had a total count of 2,980 "fucks" and an average of 1.56 utterances of "fuck" per minute of footage.[8]

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rosencrantz2016 OP t1_iy9gpl7 wrote

Hmm, extending a long established show is a little different to making a new show in 2022. But point taken.

Regards movies about slavery, they're not anti woke but for the most part they centre the issues of racism and slavery and give them immense weight. They also tend to be either didactic or cartoonish in their morality (Tarantino). (These are generalisations admittedly.) This makes them a little different than Deadwood.

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GeneralTonic t1_iy98pj7 wrote

Yeah, no problem. Serious dramas continue to depict the ugly sides of humanity, including sexism and racism. You hit the nail on the head right here:

>... the show's omnipresent humanity and wisdom make it impossible to see it as endorsing any of the -isms on display.

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rosencrantz2016 OP t1_iy9xu4p wrote

I think you're probably right. I still think it'd be hard to make Deadwood without the show making rather starker and more overt contemporary judgements on the characters. But tbh maybe it's that David Milch was unique, not that he alone was allowed to make the show he did.

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DrFrankSaysAgain t1_iy991tm wrote

There are many shows that are "politically incorrect" It's always sunny, Curb, Family guy, South Park, most shows on FX and adult swim. They are out there.

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rosencrantz2016 OP t1_iy9h5cq wrote

This is somewhat true but they are politically incorrect by design, engaged with where the culture is but in a trickstery sort of way. Deadwood is different it seems to me, drawing on a sort of gritty world-historical humanism that stands apart from the current conversation.

The more I think about it though, the more I reckon Deadwood is just very unusual in its treatment of these issues, not necessarily stepping more over any lines of decency than a bunch of other shows.

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