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Mydden t1_ix9o94j wrote

Reply to comment by AnakinRagnarsson66 in 1899 Is A Phenomenal! A Worthy Spiritual Successor To Dark - It Succeeds Where Dark Failed by AnakinRagnarsson66

I literally didn't know Dark was popular. I saw it recommended on Netflix occasionally over the past few years and didn't think I would like it because I'm usually not into gore, and it looked like it could be gorey, so never looked into it at all. I only started watching it because the creators of 1899 were involved and 1899 left me wanting more in a not fulfilling way so I was hoping Dark would give me some substance and so far I've been happier with it.

As to how I deduced the existence of a loop, the opening scene of Dark is literally a quote about the illusion of time as a straight forward arrow.

"The distinction between past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion."

And then the narrator is talking about how everything is connected. So I immediately knew we were going to be getting timey wimey stuff - I basically began expecting something inspired by Vunnegut's Slaughterhouse Five.

I don't know what the loop is yet, but there were several characters talking about how "it's happening again", and the dude who hanged himself knew "the future" and knew that other people knowing what was in the envelope he left behind before a certain time would/could prevent something he wanted to happen from happening (or the other way around). I'm pretty sure the word loop itself has been used in reference to something else in the show too.

I'm expecting some pretty weird things because of the setting including grandfather paradoxes and potentially some Oedipus style killing/relationships.

EDIT: Just went back over the intro. The loop is literally in the opening monologue:

"they are connected in a never-ending circle"

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AnakinRagnarsson66 OP t1_ix9syap wrote

Yeah but if you don’t know the show us about time travel then you might not interpret it literally

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Mydden t1_ix9v274 wrote

... Why wouldn't you? What other interpretation of "The distinction between past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion." and then that opening monologue featuring visuals of past, present, and future versions of all the characters is there?

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AnakinRagnarsson66 OP t1_ix9vk5c wrote

That’s enough. You sound so unsympathetic to other viewpoints, everything is so clear cut and dry for you huh? At that point nobody knows who all those characters are and how they’re related. And the quote just pops up for a few seconds and then disappears. At that point, who knows what the creators’ intention is with that quote. Most people aren’t truly digesting what that means at that point

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SoundofGlaciers t1_ixd3g11 wrote

There's nobody in this thread more unsympathetic to other viewpoints than you OP as evidenced by you constantly moving the goalposts in every conversation, never agreeing with anyone or understanding their viewpoint.

Always saying it must be because they already knew what is was about, or how most people in your 'real life' circle said [x] about it, implying your experiences are more true than those of people commenting here.

There's a reason this thread kinda turned against you and it's completely because of your own reactions

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Mydden t1_ix9wkc8 wrote

The quote pops up, but we're treated to a two minute monologue narration that goes over time as an illusion again right after while we're looking at an evidence board filled with past present and future versions of a number of people - yarn stringing them all together in a web of unknown connections.

"We trust that time is linear. That it proceeds eternally, uniformly. Into infinity. But the distinction between past, present and future is nothing but an illusion. Yesterday, today and tomorrow are not consecutive, they are connected in a never-ending circle. Everything is connected."

The fact that we don't know who those people are at that point doesn't matter. The narrator told us that we're going to be seeing time travel connected in a never-ending circle (aka a loop).

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