Submitted by MarvelsGrantMan136 t3_z80bc8 in television
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Rarietty t1_iy94ccx wrote
This isn't about the actors. Their categories were getting aired regardless.
The crew members who get a lot less attention? They deserve it, and cutting their time in the spotlight to save airtime for celebrities and ads in the first place was a disgusting decision
fromthewombofrevel t1_iy94orp wrote
I usually have more interest in the set decorators, wardrobe designers, and special effects makeup than the actors.
Tehsoupman12 t1_iy951td wrote
Because last year when they cut the categories, it only pissed people off, and didn't even cut the ceremony length.
GolpeNarval t1_iy95576 wrote
Good. No award should be presented as less.
jokekiller94 t1_iy959jy wrote
Good. All the technical awards that Dune won last year should have been aired. The people should get their moment in the spotlight.
blazelet t1_iy964f7 wrote
As someone on one of the dune technical teams (visual effects) I agree completely. The tech teams work their tails off for 9-18 months.
djm19 t1_iy96p2w wrote
Nobody pays me to consult on this stuff and they probably have access to a lot more data than I...but I just think Oscars needs to get back more into celebrating the craft its there to celebrate. In years past they showed clips highlighting the amazing performances as they were presenting the nominees, they showed how the scripts looked, they showed sketches for the costuming and set decorating. I love all this crafting and highlighting of what makes movies good.
I am sure it was all cut to reduce run time, but I also just think the people who are going to watch the oscars and those who aren't is decided before the Oscars even airs. So might as well serve those who are into it.
anonoman925 t1_iy97j6p wrote
The Oscars are going to slap this year.
Is that how the kids say it today? Slap?
Brainiac7777777 t1_iy98cr3 wrote
I feel like Chapek was the one who cut all the categories in the Last Oscars
NotGodsThrowaway t1_iy9as17 wrote
Less fluff and dance and “comedy” please
St1834 t1_iy9bp6u wrote
They were all aired. All that got cut out was the banter from the presenter and the winners walking to the stage. They're just going to do it live because they didn't end up saving that much time
Forke t1_iy9cr3k wrote
Those guys aren't really celebrities, so it's kinda cool to see someone more relatable winning one of these huge awards
Naugrin27 t1_iy9cucu wrote
Thank you so much for your part in it, I've enjoyed it immensely.
middlebird t1_iy9etmo wrote
For the winner of wardrobe, they should run out models on stage who are wearing some of the winning designs.
wray_nerely t1_iy9f75m wrote
The Oscars telecast will also run for all of 2023
hatramroany t1_iy9fro5 wrote
While they have occasionally skipped acting clips during the telecast they show them more often than not. The other categories are always a crapshoot though. The problem is that Academy doesn’t get the rights to clips outside of the telecast so their official YouTube clips / other channels cut out the interesting snippets that were originally shown.
fromthewombofrevel t1_iy9hgww wrote
I like that!
TheJoshider10 t1_iy9hkec wrote
Never forget the lady who won for Fury Road coming on stage in a leather jacket. Was so nice to see someone normal winning and wearing what they're comfortable in while doing it.
Curleysound t1_iy9idd6 wrote
Not true. Literally every disenfranchised category were piling on the academy about this and we were all pretty upset about it. The fact that they aired the videos was immaterial to the fact that they decided those categories were less important and less worthy of the full praise that the worthy categories received. It’s a very small concern for those not involved in it, but to think that one of the most major accomplishments of your career might be relegated to a throwaway video on the way to a commercial is pretty lame and not what the original intent was with the awards.
GamingTatertot t1_iy9igsf wrote
That was excellent. Every Fury Road win was fully deserved and it should've gotten more. I wish George Miller had won
St1834 t1_iy9iulv wrote
>Not true.
Yes, true. They did air all of the awards and speeches.
>Literally every disenfranchised category were piling on the academy about this
Because they thought the awards and speeches would get cut. You might have considered them to be throwaway videos, but I enjoyed watching the speeches.
Curleysound t1_iy9ivs5 wrote
You’re totally right. They have allowed themselves to be Persuaded by the tv people, who are only concerned with what the advertisers want.
TheSeventhAnimorph t1_iy9jvx9 wrote
> I just think Oscars needs to get back more into celebrating the craft its there to celebrate.
They need to get someone like Gregg Turkington as the host. He even did "Oscar Doctor" segments earlier this year about how he'd improve the Oscars if he got the chance.
Curleysound t1_iy9jzvs wrote
It’s true that they aired all the speeches. The not true part was the why. We were all informed ahead of time that the speeches would all be aired. That was never in doubt. The fact that they went long regardless had little to do with the decision. It was a full on campaign from the governors of each branch, including the ones who were aired live. The heads of the show were heavily trying to please the advertisers who care only about ratings.
Boognish-_- t1_iy9kov9 wrote
They aired edited versions of speeches.
Joe Walker the editor has his speech edited.
St1834 t1_iy9ljr1 wrote
>The fact that they went long regardless
removed the reason for pre-taping the speeches
Justausername1234 t1_iy9n0x3 wrote
There was one year where they sort of showed the sketches for the winning designs, which was really cool.
KayakerMel t1_iy9s0qu wrote
I remember that! They were gorgeous and really helped me understand what goes into production design and costuming.
middlebird t1_iy9u3q9 wrote
Yeah man, showcase the art. I’d love to see a big showcase of special effects makeup.
agsieg t1_iy9vsop wrote
I get everyone being pleased that the crew will be recognized, which is fair and absolutely a good thing. But the broadcast is already like three hours. Unless they’re going to be cutting a lot of the goofy comedy sketches, the broadcast is going to have to start at like 3 eastern.
ILoveRegenHealth t1_iya0csf wrote
> Nobody pays me to consult on this stuff and they probably have access to a lot more data than I...but I just think Oscars needs to get back more into celebrating the craft its there to celebrate. In years past they showed clips highlighting the amazing performances as they were presenting the nominees, they showed how the scripts looked, they showed sketches for the costuming and set decorating. I love all this crafting and highlighting of what makes movies good.
Problem is, they did that and ratings sank. So they tried to tighten it up, ratings sank. I actually do not blame them for experimenting because before the song performances used to get a FULL performance (elaborate song and dance for each one) and that tacked on an extra 20-25 minutes. Now they do a quicker medley of the nominated songs and people are fine with that (if they want to hear more, find the song on Youtube/Spotify). You don't find these things out until you try it.
So I don't mind some experimentation as some of it did stick and was preferred. I at first didn't like that they limited speeches and it used to be as long as you want to talk, but now I see why they did it (I think they get about 1.5-2 minutes). If you let everyone talk as long as you want, the show is easily running overtime to 3.5 hours, which people complained about. I would say, however, the Best Picture winner(s) should get way more time. That is the top prize of the night and they need more than 2 minutes. At least increase it there.
shivermetimbers68 t1_iya9ejt wrote
So it's going to be 10 hrs long?
alphageek8 t1_iyab756 wrote
Shoutout to Scott Reeder's IG, he's a prop master and shows a bunch of tricks they use for all types of props.
Edit: feel like I should add, best dad jokes in the biz.
fromthewombofrevel t1_iyadbm7 wrote
Thanks for the link!
eekamuse t1_iyakhwq wrote
And we want to see you have your moment. You deserve it. It's fun to see people who aren't stars, but who are vital to making films, stand there in the spotlight, knowing millions of people are watching them.
And for DUNE?! Where would that film be without visual effects. It was glorious. Thank you.
eekamuse t1_iyakvhm wrote
Thanks, I lost his link somehow. He's great
TrueKamilo t1_iyans6n wrote
The ratings have been sinking because people have a lot more choices to entertain themselves today than they did in the past. They simply don't have the captive audience they once had, so the only people still watching the ceremony are the die-hard film buffs who really care.
VladandCoke t1_iyb1zas wrote
And a security guard at the stage
DemonGroover t1_iyb9fpn wrote
Sure fire cure for insomnia.
Markymarcouscous t1_iybbq3f wrote
Good this should be an event celebrating the creation of movies and not just a dick sucking event for actors and actresses. Let people other than ego maniacs have a moment in the spot light
blazelet t1_iybbqva wrote
Aw thank you friend :)
Bretty_boy t1_iybqpwo wrote
They should get a comedian to host it then make jokes about overly egotistical actors. That shouldn’t back fire
DinosaurHotline t1_iycey4g wrote
Dune is easily one of the most visually impressive films I’ve ever seen, thank you for your work!
anonymous_guy111 t1_iyd6qoo wrote
so their answer to declining ratings is to make it super fucking long? what are they going to try next? have everybody take an ambien right before the broadcast?
oldgeek123 t1_iydts1i wrote
Yeah and the segment of die hard film buffs is shrinking as streaming television shows (or "long form" storytelling) has overtaken movies in popularity and quality.
zgrizz t1_iy91882 wrote
And nobody, anywhere, will care.
Rich actors giving themselves awards has long ago jumped the shark.