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thxpk t1_iuogs0h wrote

Like Stargate by the end the Winchesters were all powerful, literally battling God

How can you start afresh with mere demons and having to retcon everything to do so

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[deleted] t1_iuok0c0 wrote

Well actually they finished the God battle in season 13. 14 and 15 were more street level hijinx heh.

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AshTheDead1te t1_iup09w1 wrote

Are referring to Stargate? Because Supernatural definitely fought God in the last season

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[deleted] t1_iup17uk wrote

Coulda swore God and his sister made amends and just left at end of S13. Perhaps I'll have to rewatch.

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AshTheDead1te t1_iup3gzi wrote

Yeah….if that was the end of God’s story that would have been great but unfortunately it is not lol

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[deleted] t1_iup8k1c wrote

I don't know why I forgot all that but I did just get a month of Netflix to rewatch 13 and 14, even just reading each episode's synopsis is like damn, how'd I forget that. Chuck and Amara this and that everywhere.

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Petrichor02 t1_iurm0qe wrote

As far as I'm concerned, it basically is. Season 11 told us that Chuck was God's meatsuit, that Chuck had his own personality that God was adopting too much as his own, and there's just so many things that don't make sense if Chuck is God in human form rather than a human vessel for God. And since Amara starts acting good and appreciating creation after spending time with God, in my head it makes sense that God and/or Chuck would therefore have been influenced by Amara in their time away together. We know how poorly an archangel was able to handle being exposed to Amara, so a human being exposed could absolutely lead to the maniacal egotist we saw as the main villain in Season 15. I see the Chuck of Seasons 14 and 15 as a corrupted Chuck using God's powers and pretending to be God in an ironic mirror of Season 11 where God pretended to be Chuck. I won't bog down this post with the details unless asked, but the story makes so much more sense this way.

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AshTheDead1te t1_iurooml wrote

I like that theory except it was only God and Amara in the beginning and he wasn’t corrupted then, so maybe if we go by your theory it’s because she was trapped for so long that hatred and bitterness she had rubbed off on him?

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Petrichor02 t1_iursqx3 wrote

That's certainly a possibility. Another possibility is that the hatred just rubbed off on Chuck and not God. Chuck was twisted and was somehow able to wrest control of God's powers for himself.

Or perhaps in the beginning God and the Darkness were separate, but in the Season 11 finale when we see them flying off and swirling together, perhaps they mixed into what was almost a single being for the first time before deciding they had had enough and separated before Season 14, and that mixing allowed them to affect each other in a way they weren't able to in the beginning when they were separate. Under this line of thought, perhaps they were able to mix and separate because both agreed on the mixing and separating willingly. But when they merged in Season 15, Chuck wasn't willing to let Amara separate from him again.

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thxpk t1_iup1wqm wrote

No, God was the big baddie of the last season

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