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beefcat_ t1_iybwyh7 wrote

This is so strange to me. For 20 years, Disney had a relationship with Studio Ghibli that started out strong but was seemingly squandered in the latter half. You would think Disney and Ghibli are a match made in heaven. When they split up, I assumed Disney just didn't feel like they had any idea how to market and distribute anime.

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sabersquirl t1_iyc1lnz wrote

They basically still don’t. People were pissed earlier this year when they bought the rights to air Summertime Rendering, but decided to put the entire season up after it finished airing in Japan, rather than week to week as anime is traditionally broadcast.

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NintendoCyprus t1_iycbw9k wrote

Summertime Rendering still isn't available on Disney+ outside of Asia and Oceania.

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lupeandstripes t1_iyd8pf9 wrote

wait... I watched the first 13 eps on another site this last weekend - so despite having an English dub already complete, they are still slowrolling USA release? What the actual F?

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iNuclearPickle t1_iydlguo wrote

I’m just convinced most western Media companies have their heads stuck in the ground. Honestly I’m seeing anime become so much more popular than it was just couple years ago. Even common chains like Walmart and target I’m seeing have manga in stock tho it’s only basic as you can go. Most anime fans including myself would rather bootleg our anime than wait to binge after it’s been out for 2 seasons

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iamnotexactlywhite t1_iyddidb wrote

from what i understand, it’s licensing in the US that seems to be the issue. some shows or movies that aren’t available in the US, are available in most of Europe for some reason

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DDragoon t1_iydmzj2 wrote

They do the same thing with the Kdramas that they nab. One has showed up on US Disney+ and some on Hulu, the rest got to use the vpn.

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SuspiriaGoose t1_iyeskei wrote

But they’re doing great with Bleach and Tatami Time Machine.m

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leonden t1_iycbmi3 wrote

People hate having the entire season up at once ? Why?

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pipboy_warrior t1_iyclp1h wrote

Because Japan still had a weekly release. Basically Japanese watchers could be up to episode 9, while fans overseas still wouldn't be able to watch a single episode until after episode 12 had come out.

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Ellathecat1 t1_iycydms wrote

I think that's a pretty standard distribution model for streaming media, to have an "exclusive release" in the original country and then wider. For example, Better Call Saul aired weekly in the US for AMC, but whole seasons would drop later on Netflix in other markets

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Razorhead t1_iyczi8y wrote

Not for anime though. Most every other streaming service is able to simulcast anime worldwide, so deviating from this norm is unusual and seems to be on the distributor rather than the original producer.

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pipboy_warrior t1_iyd0w53 wrote

It's still kind of crap, especially if spoilers are a concern. Imagine if House of Dragons pulled that, where one country was discussing new weekly episodes while another didn't get to watch anything until after the whole season released.

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Fizzay t1_iycd02a wrote

They explained why, it wasn't put up weekly and was only put up after the season ended which is unusual for anime and sucks.

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iNuclearPickle t1_iydm8w5 wrote

It sucks some forget they planned to watch it then just move onto the next season full of anime that are airing week by week.

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snakebit1995 t1_iycwsnz wrote

Because for the last decade till Netflix and Disney got involved the standard for anime was simulcasting, AKA subbed here and available for viewing same day as Japan (or within a few hours) and it led to a big anime boom and discussions and watch alongs especially for r/anime. Binge releases just don’t have the same fanfare around them

Look at Jojo’s bizarre adventure, that series got HUGE on r/anime and other subs thanks to Jojo Fridays and the monster discussion threads and since it was weekly releases it was easy to form the routine to follow it for a casual watcher

This most recent iteration Part 6, had been Netflix exclusive and dropped in the binge model format with episodes ever few months and the show is now basically dead in terms of online discussion

Another example Edens Zero is the new manga from the maker of Fairy Tail, it was getting some decent hype as an interesting potential watch and then it went to Netflix and now you can barely find western discussion of it outside its own subreddit. Seven Deadly sins similar situation that show was big in Japan, Netflix model release and it’s so so much less known in the west

The binge model does not work for anime, fans expect and want simulcasts

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epicmooz t1_iyd1z1k wrote

Seven deadly sins isn't really a good example. It had its fan base then they destroyed anything good about it in season 3. I've seen SpongeBob fights animated better then seven deadly sin fights

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snakebit1995 t1_iyd391l wrote

You’re not wrong but the original season was very popular and that’s what I was mostly talking about

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epicmooz t1_iyd5mi0 wrote

Yeah binging it didn't deter it's popularity but the huge drop in quality did

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iNuclearPickle t1_iydmp2l wrote

The binge model definitely doesn’t work whatsoever for anime.

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Cross55 t1_iyd2cji wrote

Because anime fans don't like the fact that stuff they want to watch and could theoretically watch as soon as it airs is locked behind both a pay and release wall.

So much anime/manga related stuff is already inaccessible if you don't speak Japanese or can't pay for the exhorbidant shipping prices, we don't need western companies just adding more inaccessibility on top of the pile.

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leonden t1_iyd5c9k wrote

So you are saying that it is inaccessible, but you don’t want it more accessible because you dislike netflix?

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Cross55 t1_iyd8a6v wrote

It's not accessible on sites like Netflix, that's the problem!

Most anime focused sites like Crunchyroll or pirate sites have episodes available in sub the day they air in Japan, sites like Netflix or Disney+ make you wait up to 12-24 weeks to watch a show after it aired in Japan.

Summertime Rendering for example, one of the best new shows released in the past year, ended in the summer in Japan. But guess what? America has to wait months to watch the final few episodes because Disney didn't feel like bestowing said episode upon us mere pathetic English speakers until a few weeks ago. (In America, IIRC, don't know if The UK or Ireland got it yet)

And this happens all the time with these 2.

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y-c-c t1_iyd7y3n wrote

Irrelevant because the original anime show is released weekly (the vast majority of anime shows are still aired on TV and will therefore follow a weekly schedule as the studios keep producing future episodes). When an episode is already released in the original market, most anime fans will expect same-day availability in the local market.

I mean, why wouldn't they? Why would you want to artificially wait till the show finished before you can even watch it? If you have a binge mentality and like to consume everything in one go, you can still do that by waiting. Given that the show is already aired in Japan, discussions and spoilers will be floating around, and it simply makes sense to immediately makes them available so you can watch it however it wants.

It's also how most anime are licensed in US for streaming.

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PerfectZeong t1_iyd4vws wrote

A small vocal group really likes to do the week to week discussions and get mad when Netflix dumps shit in blocks for anime. Like it's a minority but it's a very vocal one.

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Labmit t1_iyd5vn1 wrote

What are you on about. Even the Japanese studios and even the manga authors were disappointed when they hear Netflix made the shows into a binged model.

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IKARUSwalks t1_iyc1rv0 wrote

i think that was the thing. no one in the early 90s and 2000s really knew what to do with anime. to them it was a foreign medium that must be recontextualised for the western market. from making small changes like rice balls to doughnuts in pokémon. to rewriting characters and chopping plot lines like in sailor moon.

it took the success of sites like crunchyroll to make them see it could just be what it is. you don’t need to heavily localise and recontextualise it. you don’t have to attach big names to a dub cast to ensure people will watch it. let it be what it is and if it’s good they’ll watch it.

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Linkin_G t1_iyclkhe wrote

Disney got an ego. Didn’t want Spirited Away to be loved more than lion king

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bagkingz t1_iyegrvt wrote

I thought it was a John Lassiter thing. Once he got the boot, the Ghibli relationship fell apart.

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UnrequitedRespect t1_iycusea wrote

To me its wild that most anime before 2000 came from a canadian partnership and that most of the voices from every show i grew up watching was from recorded in Canada, in Vancouver. And i mean like a lot of shows, over 200+.

Think of your favorite pre 2000’s anime and the ocean group was probably involved.

The same guy that did Goku was also Miroku was also a vancouver guy!

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