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Regula96 t1_ixe5v3o wrote
Same for me. Not among the best things I've seen this year but the whole vibe of the show was great.
anasui1 t1_ixe8248 wrote
good one, but the foreign perspective has gotten freakishly stale. Wish they eliminated the American altogether (yeah I know it's supposed to be the author's story), since Elgort is also a charisma void
Lifesaboxofgardens t1_ixe8gll wrote
Yeah it was a really pleasant surprise
ArchDucky t1_ixea5m2 wrote
Still remember that scene where the main guy went to the fruit store and it looked like a fucking Apple store. That shit was crazy. Here in Kansas we just get fruit from the grocery store. Its kinda nuts that you have specialty fruit stores in Tokyo that sell really pretty and expensive fruit. I wonder if that would even fly here in Kansas?
sandroller t1_ixeem05 wrote
I felt the same way. There's something about Ansel Elgort that really rubs me the wrong way - in this show and in other roles - although I have a hard time defining what that exactly is. I really enjoyed the other story threads of this show that didn't focus on his character, and unfortunately I think it has more to do with the actor than character or writing.
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blackmarketmafia t1_ixefues wrote
Show is missing a few things but couldn’t agree more, the Tokyo vibe makes you feel like you live there
earhere t1_ixeg1c0 wrote
Agreed.
skaomatic t1_ixehrgc wrote
Mega agree !
MJTony t1_ixeib60 wrote
Do people in Kansas eat fruit?
ArchDucky t1_ixeinrc wrote
Yes? I eat fruit all the time, and use fresh citrus in my dishes. Hell the other day I made lemon braised potatoes and they were literally the best potato I have ever had.
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jl_theprofessor t1_ixeizfy wrote
Season 1 had a bit of a blue balls ending but overall I liked it.
Kapheon t1_ixek0p4 wrote
I think he only got to direct the pilot and it was so excellent, you can feel the difference in the rest of the episodes. The exam sequence in the pilot is phenomenal.
Wadep00l t1_ixel2ti wrote
My wife and I really liked it. That whole early 2000s Tokyo aesthetic
kingofsomecosmos t1_ixelqww wrote
Its crazy, but right on the mark it seems. https://digjapan.travel/en/blog/id=12324
Tessst1 t1_ixengqr wrote
YEP! agree!
drunkencarp t1_ixenhv6 wrote
But only if you by your fruit in Ginza, your local Maruetsu or Santoku super market looks like one would expect.
mackinoncougars t1_ixenvt7 wrote
Between it being in the 90s and highlighting life in Tokyo, I could just live in that world. Was an awesome slice of life even outside of the plot.
ArchDucky t1_ixeoai9 wrote
Look at the box with grapes! Jeez
dahmerpalms t1_ixep02a wrote
The pilot was great. Really tense and you wondered where things were going. Unfortunately I agree that you can feel the difference in the rest of the episodes, I really didn’t love this show.
austinrose7 t1_ixepdmj wrote
Zaslav has yet to cancel a good show.
S1 is a good show, so this was safe.
dahmerpalms t1_ixepzvk wrote
Fr it is. Could have potentially been an interesting storyline if it didn’t go into left field that has nothing to do with the main plot
ieatalphabets t1_ixeqflk wrote
Loved how all the characters are mixed up in cultures they don't really belong in, but they are still making a go of it and even succeeding. I feel like season two will be all about "I know what I'm doing, but why am I putting myself through this?" I got to watch this again, it was so good!
dahmerpalms t1_ixeqhd3 wrote
Michael Mann directed the first episode, that’s why it started off so well. Totally agree the rest was well below the typical HBO standard.
Pudgedog t1_ixeqsyy wrote
I really enjoyed the car scene.
YggdrasilsLeaf t1_ixerffa wrote
This show is fantastic. I’m excited to see there’s gonna be a second season!
MikeArrow t1_ixes827 wrote
It was an odd duck, I really liked parts of it and other parts just dragged on. I can't bring myself to care about Rachel Keller's character, even with her whole Mormon backstory.
polloloco81 t1_ixesfbt wrote
Agreed. Show started out amazing and the finale was just goofy.
rood_sandstorm t1_ixesq78 wrote
Easily the worst written character. Could just remove her or turn her into a smaller side character
beaverhausen_a t1_ixetaah wrote
Starring alongside Bob Cadillac and Raquel Renault.
tonelander t1_ixettbj wrote
Yep. Didn’t give one monkeys left goolie about her, totally predictable.
qb1120 t1_ixeuhlh wrote
Yeah, I think it I would have enjoyed it more if Sato was the main focus
qb1120 t1_ixeuiec wrote
If Sato dies, we riot
HotelFoxtrot87 t1_ixeuuwu wrote
I didn’t mind her for the most part, but they had her being really stupid in the last couple episodes.
pearlsandplumes t1_ixev10r wrote
Oh wow, what a gorgeous man. The juxtaposition of his photo next to Elgort's who just looks like a thumb is... something else.
TheLastDesperado t1_ixevh00 wrote
Good timing. Season one has finally made it's way to UK today. Looking forward to watching it.
gregd303 t1_ixewc1b wrote
Wow crazy timing . I just watched the first episode of this screened on the BBC . Without reading too many spoilers here it seems like everyone approves of it. Must say I really felt the vibe of Tokyo from the outset I visited there in 2003 so not far off timewise. Looks like I'll be watching a lot more.
Samanoskue t1_ixexk8j wrote
I can wait for this. It was a surprise how good season 1.
greenw40 t1_ixezfgs wrote
That seems horrifically wasteful.
mybadalternate t1_ixf0q86 wrote
The drop off in quality between the pilot and the rest of the episodes was a cliff.
BalticsFox t1_ixf0yi8 wrote
Wasn't Westworld a good one?
epsiblivion t1_ixf1pdn wrote
viewership disagrees.
beachguy82 t1_ixf33er wrote
Same and it’s not always easy for my wife and I to find shoes we both like.
beachguy82 t1_ixf366x wrote
Raised by wolves was a true science fiction show at its finest.
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Krinks1 t1_ixf3p6d wrote
Same here, I really REALLY enjoyed it. Loved the atmosphere of the whole thing and the opening credits are great. I also really liked the relationship between Jake and his editor and how it developed into a kind of odd friendship over time.
Only thing negative I have to say (and it's nit-picky) is that I felt the season finale was a bit weak. It felt like the 2nd last episode and one more should've followed.
Having said that, I'm eagerly waiting for season 2!
kadauserer t1_ixf415r wrote
I loved the show. It somehow made me nostalgic for 90s Tokyo even though I was barely born then. Though I have lived in Tokyo much later and love the city.
bajesus t1_ixf4zff wrote
I watched that show right after playing Yakuza 0. I feel like it may have made for a strange view of Japanese culture.
myassholealt t1_ixf62vf wrote
Fun show, but I feel like it kinda flew off the rails by the finale with some of the paths they chose to take character arcs. But will definitely be watching season 2.
austinrose7 t1_ixf6591 wrote
Haven’t watched it tbh but the near-unanimous consensus seems to be that after S1, the answer to that is definitely no until S4, at which point it was too late to rescue its own reputation.
Viewership declined after S2 and absolutely plummeted after S3.
austinrose7 t1_ixf68pd wrote
That show was a mess imo but I’m glad other people enjoyed it. I didn’t get past the second episode.
HACCAHO t1_ixf6wz4 wrote
Indeed. So well crafted.
nightfishin t1_ixf71jo wrote
That one was a mess and had some slog episodes.
jeffbizloc t1_ixf7dty wrote
Can't wait for season 2
PartyMcDie t1_ixf7tsn wrote
Adidas Superstar looks good on both genders. (Assuming you’re a dude).
MattseW t1_ixf8q0l wrote
This makes sense because there really is no closure to anything in the season finale. Excited to see how it wraps up next season.
FeFiFoShizzle t1_ixf9csr wrote
This show started off ok but I couldn't finish it tbh.
AppropriateArcher272 t1_ixf9qbv wrote
He is hot!
Powderfingers t1_ixf9so2 wrote
Binged this show with the wife after I came home from a business trip to Tokyo, during my stay I couldn't wait to go home, when we watched this I was yearning to go back.
The setting and atmosphere is spot on. Biggest surprise of the year.
ACrask t1_ixfb520 wrote
Definitely a solid show worth a binge
idontknowyet t1_ixfbdwv wrote
I’ve read the book it’s based on and it seems like they took multiple female characters from the book and molded them all together into her. Wasn’t a fan either, but the separate characters would have dragged out the story into multiple avenues. I guess they did it to be more concise.
ectowel2000 t1_ixfbj9f wrote
It has changed the way I think about the Backstreet Boys song.
_10032 t1_ixfc1f7 wrote
You got downvoted, but you aren't wrong
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dyurk t1_ixfelqb wrote
That man is damn nice to look at
AdviceNotAskedFor t1_ixfes88 wrote
Yeah we thought we missed something
MacualayCocaine t1_ixff0u1 wrote
So should I give this show a shot?
I read the book before I ever knew they were making it a show and it was complete garbage. I’m totally convinced that almost none of this guys stories happened. It reads like a 15 year old lying to his friends about the girls he banged over summer vacation.
With that being said people seem to love the show? Anybody else read the book and end up liking this?
doodler1977 t1_ixffply wrote
i survived that show by FF'ing thru everything w/ the white guy. if Rinko or Watanabe weren't in the frame, i was bumping the 10sec skip
doodler1977 t1_ixfft8x wrote
yeah, i FF'd thru everything with her subplots. did not care, and it did not matter. no effect on the other plots
lawschoolredux t1_ixfganh wrote
As a trance fan, the scene with ATB’s 9PM blaring in the club had me grinning ear to ear.
Tinkeybird t1_ixfgr4p wrote
Loved this show. So glad to hear we’ll see a second season.
ricklessness t1_ixfgysp wrote
Yes I loved season 1 thought it was some of the best TV I’ve watched
zEeXUrqVR7DeM7M8yac3 t1_ixfhjxa wrote
Same opinion on the book and author. Complete fraud and egomaniac. That being said he doesn’t get a cent if you watch it on the high seas.
EvilSporkOfDeath t1_ixfhqul wrote
Felt blueballed the whole time. Like I was enjoying it enough to keep watching, waiting for some big moments to happen, but when they did I never felt very satisfied. I never hated it, but just didnt feel like I got payoffs.
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mug3n t1_ixfhzvi wrote
Is it just me or is it really damn strange that this show hasn't seemed to confirm any of the other main cast members for season 2? at least it just seems like there hasn't been a lot of noise on season 2 about a show that has done fairly well for its first season.. does it have something to do with Ansel Elgort's SA allegations?
mug3n t1_ixfi8qj wrote
After season 1, the quality dropped off. Season 4 picked it back up and recovered imo but a day late, dollar short. Those 2 year gaps between seasons also do not help with building interest.
powercorruption t1_ixfib7s wrote
Her character in general is just unlikable. A mormon that made it to Japan to push her religion, constantly making bad decisions and gets combative when people try to help her.
Cheap_Blacksmith66 t1_ixfiobk wrote
Really worried that HBO was cutting all their good content. Glad this remained.
drskeme t1_ixfiobf wrote
Overrated show. 1st 2 episodes were good then it was such a dramatization. They tried so hard to make this journalist look like a bad ass.
I’m sure he fucked the boss’ girl and was taking down hit men where it took 3 to defeat him. Became too cliche
Training_Active1551 t1_ixfje6p wrote
This show is a hidden gem
Unlucky_Clover t1_ixfjklx wrote
Loved this show. Started off a little slow and not knowing how it’s going to go but the writing really took off. Sucks there were only 8 episodes in the first season.
Cheeze_Pleeze t1_ixfjpfm wrote
I thought they cancelled this?!?!
Pleasant-Article8131 t1_ixfl292 wrote
In my experience for some shows it takes a little time before it gets its claws in you. The Wire took me 5-6 episodes but at that point there was no turning back
Felt like this show is similar in this regard.
Moist_Whispers t1_ixflqe4 wrote
Recipe for a fellow Kansan??
ArchDucky t1_ixfmoyu wrote
You will not be disappointed. These things were better than any potato I have ever had.
AidilAfham42 t1_ixfmx6y wrote
It was a good show but I was actually expecting it to be a limited series, didn’t know its just thr first season so the ending felt abrupt to me. Still a good show with really great Japanese actors.
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EZ-PZ-Japa-NEE-Z t1_ixfnlud wrote
It really is.
towehaal t1_ixfnwd2 wrote
Are there a lot of subtitles in the show?
Ok_Classroom_9763 t1_ixfr0pc wrote
I’m a whore for this show
BobRossIsGod18 t1_ixfs2gn wrote
Probably him being a rapist
waitmyhonor t1_ixfs9v1 wrote
Except for that horrible ending. I think they need to tone down on the main character being this guy who have all these connections out nowhere and taking on two yakuza guys. The first season really could have benefitted from 2-3 extra episodes. Before people say it’s based on a true story, the book has been criticized by other journalists and people in that book as untrue
anonyfool t1_ixft8ye wrote
IIRC the raid they show part of in the first episode in media rez does not appear in the rest of season one.
jl_theprofessor t1_ixfthjj wrote
Yeah! Thanks for the reminder of how annoyed I was lol
Equal_Newspaper_8034 t1_ixftua4 wrote
Oh thank god season 2 was picked up. With that scumbag from Discovery taking over I thought this show was a goner
Equal_Newspaper_8034 t1_ixftzrs wrote
Amazing how HBO always gets actors to perform at such a high level. Never a sour note
gears50 t1_ixfud4i wrote
Agreed, she definitely seemed more like a vessel to move along Sato's story and character
gears50 t1_ixfuin9 wrote
it was never good
Random_frankqito t1_ixfuu3a wrote
Great show easily one of the best. My man learned Japanese for the part. Can’t wait for more
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ShadowXJ t1_ixfwgl8 wrote
I loved it as well, just found the world believable.
Remarkable-Ad-2476 t1_ixfwzfc wrote
I didn’t even know the finale was the finale until there weren’t any more episodes to watch
Signiference t1_ixfydlb wrote
I’d estimate its 80-90% in English.
mister-misses t1_ixfypzk wrote
Ooooo, good lord.. Mr. Yuki-Zuki is kinda fine.
itak365 t1_ixfzh2k wrote
As a Japanese person- I and all of my family who’s watched it enjoyed it for the sake of having a well-done, truly bilingual and multicultural Japanese show, but I just treated it as 100% fiction at face value since I hadn’t read his book and had no frame of reference.
Sort of in this category, you might also like Giri/Haji, which is a BBC/Netflix original which directly deals with the Nikkei/Japanese expat experience and is also a bilingual drama.
UXyes t1_ixfzhin wrote
No. It was trash after the first season.
Spork-in-Your-Rye t1_ixfzov8 wrote
It’s happening!! Thank god I was scared this would get lost in the shuffle of the merger
Hooterdear t1_ixg0a04 wrote
Exactly. We never returned to the very first scene of the first episode. It's all been flashback... I think?
Hooterdear t1_ixg0ici wrote
Mann's last TV production, Luck, also had production issues and had to eventually get canceled.
Sanguinius t1_ixg120q wrote
Caught the first half of this show on a plane ride last week. Highly underrated!
Curl_of_the_Burl_ t1_ixg27gk wrote
It hit a bit harder for me but I've been in east Asian countries and been in date bars like that. The human trafficking is very real and rough to see in person. The character motivation was more transparent for me.
kazejito t1_ixg2uod wrote
What do you mean there are no inexperienced dominatrix on the streets waiting for me to train them?
eccojams97 t1_ixg7bc9 wrote
Hot damn, what a man
Dull-Lead-7782 t1_ixg908i wrote
Loved this show but did anyone else feel like it abruptly ended? I was surprised there weren’t more episodes
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careless_swiggin t1_ixgbvkb wrote
love how unhonest it was, between how it is based on a biased autobiography the MC is obviously full of shit, and it is obvious that events are not all true but in some regards, pieces fell the same way.
fun how it portrays the ridiculousness of either sides very well.
poeticmercenary t1_ixgd7ks wrote
great show. waiting for season 2.
Cyrano_Nose t1_ixgfw53 wrote
Underrated and over criticized if you ask me.
Very enjoyable.
T-BONEandtheFAM t1_ixggz73 wrote
Not underrated if it’s a 90% on rotten tomatoes
Corteaux81 t1_ixghfaw wrote
After the park, it just goes downhill. It also tried way too hard to "subvert expectations" and shit... It just wasn't good, even though season 1 was great.
Corteaux81 t1_ixghifg wrote
Agree mostly. Show was good (not great, but definitely good), but the finale was a mess.
orderinthefort t1_ixgiyq1 wrote
I really enjoyed the atmosphere of the show more than the show itself, though probably because Ansel Elgort is a charisma vacuum. I think almost anyone else would've been better.
PhantomWD t1_ixgizci wrote
What a waste of your time. If you're not going to actually watch the show why even bother ff through it.
PhantomWD t1_ixgj0n5 wrote
No, they expect viewers to speak English and Japanese /s
darkoblivion21 t1_ixgj0tk wrote
Every time I watched an ep of Tokyo Vice I got the urge to play Yakuza
NoNefariousness2144 t1_ixgp4d4 wrote
Or real estate business that are run by chickens and settle land disputes with a 1v1 dance competition?
LigmaSack69 t1_ixgs5oz wrote
Yeah horrible season finale. When it ended I was like “that’s it?”. Was a little pissed. All I know is that shit better go down in the first episode of the second season or I will once again be a little pissed.
Ram3ss3s t1_ixgsxh3 wrote
It’s kinda horrible actually, all fruit is really expensive.
2cimarafa t1_ixgvztx wrote
The show is literally filming season 2 in Japan right now. Hollywood Reporter ran a recent interview with one of the EP’s in late October that said filming was starting “next week” (from then). So I think the core cast clearly returns, otherwise they’d have announced. Elgort seems back in polite company, for the most part.
bruiser95 t1_ixgxop6 wrote
And then went on to shit the bed in the season 1 finale. Was doomed after that anyway
NoInvestment2079 t1_ixh0xm0 wrote
Where's the funny eyepatch guy?
doodler1977 t1_ixh5ahf wrote
b/c i like the aesthetic and crime storyline. don't care about the white people
detrydis t1_ixh5k1g wrote
Nor does the cool direction and cinematography return…
PhantomWD t1_ixh6xgb wrote
Right.... well you have fun with that, bud.
hagbardceline69420 t1_ixh99kl wrote
wow! another Tokyo Vice post, marketing people are busy.
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Thelastmudra t1_ixhcwbe wrote
Tokyo is a very unique city, even amongst east asian mega cities
Thelastmudra t1_ixhcxkz wrote
Tokyo is the best character of the show
Then it's sato
Thelastmudra t1_ixhd3j9 wrote
That's because she's the worst
In fact the show would've been fine if it was just sato
Thelastmudra t1_ixhd93y wrote
It makes sense
Their logic is they can never compete with south east asia in terms of quantity of fruits produced, so they'll fill a niche of quality
Hence the hundred dollar fruits
tickingkitty t1_ixhdd6h wrote
Certainly easy on the eyes.
Thelastmudra t1_ixhdgfw wrote
That's because it never happened, it's literally a white male in asia fantasy, the guy could never produce a single yakuza source he had when asked to
The show tries to tone it down a bit, but it's still present whenever the white male self insert shows up on screen
cedped t1_ixhkm06 wrote
Nah it wasn't.
ItCouldBeWorse222 t1_ixhpqhh wrote
I didn't like her character either, but it did it's job which was create reach into tokyo underworld culture from the perspective of a westerner.
It could have been worse. Some white savior interpol FBI bullshit that japanese cops bow down to. And I say that as an anti-progressive.
EatsRats t1_ixhr5wk wrote
Hmm…I’m going to give this one a shot. Been looking for a good show. I’ll give it a go based on you liking it so much!
Shower_caps t1_ixhsnlx wrote
Um…I’m going to start watching the show just for him and I hear it’s good anyway.
Shower_caps t1_ixhsu2l wrote
He is so hot my gawd
Shower_caps t1_ixht5nr wrote
Do you recommend Giri/Haji?
buyer_leverkusen t1_ixi4mo1 wrote
That’s just fruit for gifting, Japanese people buy daily fruit at the grocery store just like you.
itak365 t1_ixi5lfj wrote
Oh hell yes- maybe even before Tokyo Vice but they are pretty different shows. It only got one season and was cancelled, so it’s more of a miniseason, but the ending ties up pretty much everything so there’s definitely payoff.
It’s got competing British and Japanese storylines, with half being set in London and the other half in Tokyo, but both are written and acted very well. Imagine Guy Ritchie got into a motor accident with Tokyo Vice and a Nordic noir show from mainland Europe and that’s what you get in this show.
I’m half-Japanese, so I’m biased as one of the mains is Anglo-Japanese and the show makes many generational and cultural comparisons between all of its Japanese characters.
ILoveTheAIDS t1_ixi9coe wrote
shut up gaijin boy, you know nothing
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Shower_caps t1_ixihpjd wrote
It’s just casting info, at least it’s not berating viewers for not watching
hagbardceline69420 t1_ixillz4 wrote
astroturfing!, get this off my feeeeeed, too many Tokyo Vice posts, must be paid ads, too many Tokyo Vice posts!
annoying isn't it?
sparklingvireo t1_ixizf1y wrote
It didn't make sense. She had the choice to eat her financial losses (possibly going bankrupt) and start over, or in-debt herself to the Yakuza, which everyone knows is not something you can easily get out of, if ever.
I get that she didn't want to give up her goal of being her own boss and hostess-bar owner, but what she chose was to accept Yakuza assistance, making her bar essentially, but not legally, theirs and she knew it.
Moving cities and starting over would at least grant her self-control. She wouldn't owe the Yakuza anything.
doodler1977 t1_ixj00cj wrote
i did! enjoyed the hell out of it
kidgorgeous62 t1_ixj2550 wrote
Season 3 had great ideas but absolutely fumbled the ending it was borderline embarrassing. I don’t blame people for being turned off. Season 4 was better though.
hithereworld2 t1_ixkkvm2 wrote
That scene was so great. Same with the faithless insomnia
APiousCultist t1_ixkrszf wrote
That's definitely more of a 'huge fucking cash sink' sort of a show. Sucks that people are losing out, but it's not one that got memory-holed like all the cartoons.
APiousCultist t1_ixksh3n wrote
Wasn't he responsible for memory-holing several highly rated multi-season animated shows though? Like Infinity Train or Final Space might not be things you've watched, but they ran for multiple seasons and had very high ratings. I suppose that's different than cancelling them, but it's also much worse. Now the only practical way to view them is yar-har-yiddle-de-dee.
jenkirch t1_ixx1m05 wrote
Beautifully shot & good story. Shame they had to cast a sexual predator like ansel ergot
ShotsAways t1_iy5i39l wrote
Not just any thumb, but a pedophile thumb
SprinklesCharming382 t1_ixe3fbr wrote
Underrated show, Tokyo Vice ended up being one of my favorites new shows of 2022.