Submitted by Sink-Em-Low t3_ytgvu2 in television

Having watched all three TV shows. I feel MM, The Deuce and Show Me a Hero are all brilliant companion shows providing a dramatic narrative of New York City and the Boroughs.

Mad Men/The Marvelous Mrs Maisel.

Both shows have this cultural deep innocence of the late 1950s and early 1960s. Life is stratified, culture is defined by deep ingrained morals and certainties. As the years pass, a cultural haze drifts over MM as we pass into 1967-1968. The Vietnam war is gradually strangling the life out of its young.

Yet slowly the rot sets in, and the decades capitalism is becoming bloated, self agrandized and selfish. As Don Draper reckons with his failing self goals and morality. NYC is described as filthy and rotten by the characters.

The Deuce

The Deuce picks up right after or nearly at the same time of Mad Mens final season set in 1970. We move off Madison Avenue and to Times Square. NYC is beyond reproach, dangerous and unhealthy. If Mad Men was a portrayal of sauve capitalism and money, the Deuce is the underbelly and shadow of all that money. The character are broken, failed by society and feeding/leaching off everything broken in NYC. This finally catches up with everyone with the introduction of HIV/AIDS in mid 1980s. As Times Square is gentrified, NYC collectively forgets everything that came before it. It trades it away.

Show Me a Hero.

Yonker, New York. Society moves forward with racial integration against the wishes of many many people, the poverty, corruption and hubris of the 1980s hangs over the plot. You sense the move into 1990s was more like awful sickening hangover. As Don Draper could see the future of advertising in the 1970s and Irene could see the future of the adult industry, Nick Wasicsko reckons with struggle of political power and delivering promises to his constituents.

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Lambchops_Legion t1_iw46svm wrote

Rudy Pipilo is my favorite mob character ever and a great play on audience expectations when they first see a NYC mafioso character

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anasui1 t1_iw50go4 wrote

Show Me a Hero is truly tremendous, and very depressing as well

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sevsnapey t1_iw63yfg wrote

does the deuce end well? from memory it was cancelled and left people upset but i'm not sure if that was due to lack of a proper closure or just losing a good show. or maybe i'm confusing it with another show like GLOW.

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zkinny t1_iw7euml wrote

Never heard of show me a hero, will definetly check that out. Another good portrayal of the 90's is City on a hill with Kevin bacon. Great show.

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staedtler2018 t1_iw7q4rx wrote

Mad Men is the opposite of gritty and really has nothing to do with these other shows.

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Sink-Em-Low OP t1_iw7sx69 wrote

It actually does if you frame it within the decline of NYC and the people in it. Each character in Mad Men is flawed in someway and is a product of their environment.

Don Draper, betty and Pete Campbell etc can behave like they do because they manipulate their social status (ironic since draper is living a lie). It shows the built in lie, that the folks from Madison Ave relied on. They sold happiness...yet characters like Irene, lori shay, Paul in the Deuce tried to buy into that happiness and failed.

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Czarcasm21 t1_iwc9ttb wrote

The Knick deserves a mention here, as well.

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