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PaulFThumpkins t1_iuadt1m wrote

Reply to comment by Modoger in Bryan Fuller Says Accusing ‘Hannibal’ of Queerbaiting Is ‘Cynical’ by i_love_anachronisms

Remembering that they said they shot some kissing takes does put a bit of a wrench in my argument. I should say that a bigger problem is the discomfort I talked about, along with a dearth of genuine gay relationships in mainstream media.

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Modoger t1_iuae3pn wrote

Agreed. I haven’t actually seen this show so can’t speak to this specific example. I have no problem with veiled homoeroticism between characters if it makes sense. In a show/movie without any queer relationships whatsoever it can get annoying and feel exploitative.

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highdefrex t1_iuapeuv wrote

> I haven’t actually seen this show so can’t speak to this specific example

That's why these things are nuanced. No offense, but you saying "The 'at least not necessarily' is what makes it queer baiting" while then admitting that you haven't even watched the show and therefore don't have any context on it from which to draw from is exactly the type of knee-jerk reaction that robs these sorts of conversations of said nuance.

Hannibal and Will's dynamic is unique, to say the least, but using OP's "at least not necessarily" as a way to dismiss it as queer baiting paints it as a black and white thing when the show itself is tackling the grey area, which, again - and I say this respectfully - you'd see (and get why OP said "not necessarily") if you watched the show before making a judgment.

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Modoger t1_iuapwod wrote

I’m not making a judgement, if you read the rest of my comment, I find veiled homoeroticism fine and dandy if it serves the story. Still fits the terminology of queer baiting. I very specifically said that I can’t speak to this specific example (and was inferring that I can’t make judgement on whether this case of “queerbaiting” ie unresolved ambiguous homoromantic relationships, fits that definition or not) no need to jump down my throat friend, just having a conversation. I mean no harm.

Queer baiting is a loaded term, (which is why I prefer schrodingers gays). It’s often exploitative and annoying but not always.

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