Lol. This show was so poorly written and produced. The idea that anyone wants a second season is laughable. It’s like watching Disney kill Marvel all over again. This entire article is bullshit. Parrot Analytics is just another company paid to say good things about bad shows.

I highly doubt that

Me falling asleep during almost every episode doesn't bode well that I'll be interested in watching a second season.

Not surprised. It was definitely my favorite show out of everything that’s been available the past few months.

The reviews kept us away for awhile, but my wife and I recently got around to watching it and really enjoyed it. We also watch a lot of British mystery shows so we didn’t mind the pacing so much. Looking forward to future installments if it happens.

This post will get downvoted but the negative one from business insider will reach the top of the sub. The hate boner for this show on here is crazy.

Somehow I doubt that there's much demand for this show. Took less than a week after the finale for a lot of people in the MSM to stop the "best show evarrrrrr" charade. Overall opinion seems to be generally negative. Fan reaction has been generally abysmal. It's just a giant mess.

Plenty of people like the show, I don't doubt it. But somehow I do doubt that, if there wasn't a multi-season contracts, there's anywhere near enough demand to have them sign off on a season 2.

I don't really have any strong opinion on this show but it is fascinating how divisive it is overall. It doesn't seem to be an atrocity that its biggest haters claim it is, but it is also not the ultimate fantasy show that it's supporters claim.

Honestly for a show that is just 7/10, I don't get why it inspires so much passion on both sides other than the fact it belongs to the Lord of the Rings IP. And even then its not like its existence will somehow erase the existence of the original books or the Peter Jackson movies.

show sucked

The opposite end is people gassing up HotD to the point where any criticism at all is going to be immediately controversial…

For my money they’re two flawed but overall pretty good shows that are ultimately very different, and as a fantasy fan I’ve thoroughly enjoyed having both. Just wish it was easier to have a good faith discussion about either online

Game of Thrones fans on r/television are just so tiring. Its either the IP is ruined forever, it has no cultural impact, I would never watch GOT again or blind worship of it and blindly shitting on other shows. There is no nuance, no middle ground, it is either the greatest or the worst and nothing in between.

That’s unfortunately been the trend for a lot of media discussion online, but yeah GoT shit is just on another level. And it just dominates the subreddit

You're not allowed to appreciate and enjoy the fact that you have two high budget, large scale fantasy shows to enjoy. You must pick a side and gaslight fans of the other.

Despite the relentless negative posts on /r/television, everyone I've ever talked to about this show really enjoyed it. I personally thought it was the best Lord of the rings production since Rankin Bass' The Hobbit.

Yep, can’t be letting anyone read this objective article!! Must downvote and say the shows bad and literally no one watched

I mean for the most expensive tv show per episode, from one of the largest IPS known for its quality writing and world building people were expecting something amazing. The show was ‘ok’ but that’s well short.

I rather enjoyed it.

It has some obvious flaws, especially in the first couple of episodes.

But it was overall fun to watch, and I liked it. What more is there to want?

Watching this go from overwhelmingly upvoted to downvoted was a hell of a ride

This is why one should avoid the reddit hive mind opinions about shows. Too much of it, good and bad, is due to paid astroturfing.

I really have no idea where the hate for the show comes from. I already enjoy it much more than the movies.

Enjoyed LOTR books, Jackson’s adaptations were very good, The Hobbit trilogy was poor. Rings of Power felt like getting back into a comfy pair of slippers, enjoyed it throughout.

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I enjoyed the show and would say it had a pretty slow pace. I thought the slow pace was enjoyable in some parts and annoying in others.

It’s a shame that the Uber Dorks have review bombed this. We’ve loved the show so far and can’t wait till the next season.

Surprise by the lack of discussion on this post, though I guess since it's not a doom and gloom post it's not popular around here.

Happy to read this. My wife and I saw the first episode and are genuinely excited to continue it tonight.

It got Amazon exactly what they wanted. A lot of hype and increased traffic on prime video.

Long doesn't mean slow. The trilogy tells the entire LOTR story in 9 (or 12) hours. That's not slow, that's dense. RoP takes 8 hours to tell barely any story at all. Hours pass where nothing happens. The characters are barely developed. We can't even begin to have character arcs because we don't know who most of them are in the first place. That's slow.

only the positive is astrosurfing by amazon, no one with money has reason to negative astrosurf

Negative astroturfing is usually spearheaded by people with strong political opinions and shills.

I absolutely adored this season and I can’t wait for more. Was it as good as the original LOTR Trilogy? No, but it had a lot of the similar charm and it’s just so damn fun to be back in Middle Earth again. The haters on the internet are completely delusional and never gave the show a chance, there is a lot to love in the show and even if it isn’t LOTR Trilogy quality it’s still better than 98% of the shows on TV.

they should do it. itll be more content for youtube creators

As expected, really.

Yep, but the post saying "Where are the ratingsss!!!" is sitting at the top of the sub. Turns out they don't actually want the ratings....

That's not true at all. There's a whole cottage industry of stemming negativity around shows.

Not to mention there's any number of reasons people would pay to create conflict.

> i'm guessing they haven't seen the 9 hours of movies then

I've watched them, I saw Two Towers last weekend. I still found it more entertaining and it went 'faster' than any single episode of this show.

People don’t mean viewing length when they say its slow, they mean its slow

> It got Amazon exactly what they wanted

It didn’t even come close. That’s why they’re desperately throwing out all kinds of articles simultaneously gaslighting, apologising and deflecting the opinions of this show.

Amazon and Bezos wanted GOT, they aren’t going to get it

"Not to mention there's any number of reasons people would pay to create conflict." Name one.

Controversy leads to engagement often. Foundations of geopolitics

Talking about “a spike in demand at the finale” does not sound like I the most amazingly strong way to introduce something.

So all the articles you agree with are the truth, and all the articles you disagree with are gaslighting, apologizing and deflecting?

Here we go, Stans of the billionaire corporation’s latest lukewarm product saying everyone else is against them.

It’s not divisive at all, it’s a very middling show and there are some very loud stans pretending it’s the subject of unjust persecution.

This show was dogshit

HoD was created in a lab by scientists to attract the kind of fan that drives social media engagement.

You put that level of production quality with episodes packed with dragons, nudity and violence and you get an absolutely rabid fanbase online.

Dragons and titties

The hundreds of youtubers making money on hating woke culture. It's pretty damn lucrative.

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He w go, another weirdo online that thinks someone with a different opinion must be getting paid off

Literally the first thing he does is make a typo and literally the second thing he does is a strawman.

Being a stan doesn’t mean you’re getting paid, Professor. It means you’re unreasonably supportive of something.

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> The hundreds of youtubers making money on hating woke culture. It's pretty damn lucrative.

By all means show me how much money these 'anti woke Youtubers' are making considering Youtube demonetizes and strikes them constantly for their opinions.

You want them to dig up their taxes or what? Are you really denying that people get paid for getting views on YouTube?

> The hundreds of youtubers making money on hating woke culture. It's pretty damn lucrative.

So they don't know how much they make but are just assuming it is a lot?

You aren't exactly helping your buddy prove his point, just making him look worse.

I don’t care what you think, the burden of proof you’re asking for is insane and the denial it takes to accept your point at face value even crazier. I don’t know OP just know what sea lioning looks like.

> the burden of proof you’re asking for is insane

Hahahahahaha so he made a statement that infers he has knowledge of the situation and asking him to share that knowledge is 'insane'?

Oh man how adorable!

I thought it started really slow, and I understand why people got bored and abandoned it (my wife one of them). But I thought it really picked up at the end, and I really enjoyed it.

Critical Drinker is estimated to make 700,000 a year.

Now granted this isn't 100% factual. But its a pretty good indicator. Youtubers make money from things besides youtube algorithms. It's not that complicated to understand.

You can also look at his patreon and see he makes 4000 a month from that alone.

...that is a film reviewer. Where does he "hate woke culture" exactly?

I would say we have a good idea of who all of the major characters are (The Stranger aside), what they believe in and stand for.

Ah Kettle meets pot. Makes sense.

And who is deciding what “unreasonably” supportive? Your grammar isn’t perfect either btw.

(Edit: then buddy decided to delete his posts and “block” me).

I don’t think you believe that absolutely no one could want a second season. If you do actually believe that, you’re living in very tiny bubble.

Yeah I’m blocking you now. Bye!

Could be that a lot of people just don't like it. That's OK, as it is OK that some people do.

So by 'hundreds' you meant 'one I can't prove'?

Anecdotes are just anecdotes though. The only people I know in real life (i.e. not the internet) thought it was absolute rubbish. Whose anecdote is more likely to represent the larger cohort of viewers? I have no idea.

Man, you can make some good money posting videos to YouTube complaining about “woke culture” and the latest controversy du jour. There are people with some very big microphones with a vested interest in keeping you outraged.

I did prove it, literally posted proof he's making good money off it.

Ah yes, a 'net worth estimate' site. Those are always accurate!

Read again, there was multiple points. Dude's also making 50 grand off patreon alone.

If I remember correctly he's also a professional author and screenwriter.

At the end of the day suggesting you know how much money he's making off of Youtube is at best a total guess.

His Patreon is for his youtube channel. His books are only popular because of his youtube channel. And no he isn't a professional screenwriter.

I guess I’m just shocked how anyone could watch this horribly written show. It supplied an unbelievable amount of plot contrivance, some of the most laughable dialogue and the cast was jam packed with C and D list talent. How is someone gonna invest THAT much money into a show and hire folks with zero star power?!

And your second response is a perfectly valid opinion. Your first was laughable hyperbole. People can discuss whether or not they like the writing, or how they feel about the show.

But the discussion isn’t furthered by saying ridiculous things like you did earlier.

For the record, I want a second season, and I enjoyed the show a lot. I found the plotting to be fine, and apart from a few wince-worthy lines of dialogue, the writing wasn’t as terrible as you’re making it out to be.

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Too true!

The number of fans who are upset that RoP isn’t grimdark fantasy like GoT is insane to me. They’re not outright stating that, but a ton of the criticisms are over things like them not talking like real people, it lacking the pace and consistent drama of GoT/HotD, and it lacking realism in its battles and choreography.

If it went in that direction to satisfy those viewers it would cease to fit in the world Tolkien created. If that was the intention Amazon expressed i doubt they’d have even gotten the rights from Tolkien’s estate. Its fine to not enjoy Tolkien’s style, but a lot of people don’t seem to understand that something not being their preferred style doesn’t make it objectively worse.

Some light comparative data from users on my Plex server to add to anecdotal data:

Rings of Power:

• ~25 total episodes watched
• only one user has watched every episode
• next farthest along is episode 5

House of the Dragon:

• ~150 total episodes watched
• only one user didn't watch every episode
• three users watched it 2+ times through

Not commenting on quality; I just found it interesting.

In inspires passion because some people think "LORD OF THE RINGS IS MY LIFE, HOW DARE YOU MAKE THIS CRAP, GANDALF IS SPELLED WITH A BIG G NOT A LITTLE G HOW COULD YOU NOT KNOW THAT I CANT BELIEVE " and the. On the other side "DONT TELL ME THAT MY TASTES ARE CRAP JUST BECAUSE YOU CANT LET GO, JUST LET ME ENJOY IT"

Case in point: The Witcher. The haters put me off of it for years despite my love for Henry Cavill and a premise that sounded cool. Finally started it a few days ago, absolutely love it so far. It’s not a Mad Men-level masterpiece in storytelling or anything, but ridiculously enjoyable 4/5 television for me. Surprisingly brutal fight sequences, lavish visuals, solid acting, and even (hot take!) solid writing.

Wish I’d started it sooner but I’m kinda glad I’ll finish it right before Blood Origin comes out on my birthday (along w/ Amazon’s Jack Ryan, another show Reddit hates but that I really like!)

A lot of people like it, a lot of people also think it's just ok. But the vocal ones seem to be the ones that dispose it specifically because it's not the canon they know

I'm one of those people who abandoned it. It kept putting me to sleep in the middle of the day, literally. It's visually stunning, but I found it so boring and flat. Now that it's over, I might try to binge it at some point, but it could not hold my attention.

>Honestly for a show that is just 7/10, I don't get why it inspires so much passion on both sides other than the fact it belongs to the Lord of the Rings IP.

The insane production costs.

Before it premiered there was almost non-stop news about how much money was poured into it, and now that it’s all done and over with the most that people can really say is “yeah it’s average”.

I think people expected the dollar amount to show on screen and left disappointed, especially when HotD was airing at the same time with a significantly lower budget and was doing gangbusters critically and commercially. I don’t care either way, but from what I’ve read this seems to be the main subject of discourse.

Forget precise complaints. I read the books 16 years ago and watched the complete first trilogy maybe even further back but you could tell within 10 mins of the show starting that they had literally no idea what they were getting involved with.

The monologue on why a ship floats is literally so dumb alongside a myriad of other random happenings. The dialogue, the writing, the characters are all completely bland and outright moronic.

Its great when the majority of the comments are that they stopped watching after two episodes but will precede to tell you how its shit and murders Tolkiens legacy

It literally drove the highest number of subscribers to prime of any show they have made. Sorry this ain't failing.

That honestly isn’t what I have observed. Most of the complaints I have seen largely are concerned with the quality of writing and storytelling.

Sounds about right based on the almost universal positivity about the series.

Have you watch Slow Horses or Gangs of London? Second not really a mystery and first is more of a Spy Thriller but I binged the shit out of that last weekend and loved it.