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OneGoodRib t1_jdx1l0i wrote

Reply to comment by Contrarian_Eh in First Look: "The Muppets Mayhem" - Disney Plus series by LyingPug

The original format relied on audiences being nostalgic for vaudeville. What they needed to do was make a reboot more like Mad or SNL - which ultimately the difference is really the style of the theater and Fozzie's jokes.

I think The Muppets (2015) would've worked way better if instead of "let's follow the private lives of the muppets who are writers for Miss Piggy's late night talk show", they did more of a 30 Rock thing - where some of the Muppets are writers for a new live Muppet variety show, and some of them are the stars of that variety show. So we'd get some backstage and production shenanigans and also get to see actual sketches, and there'd be plenty of organic room for celebrity guest stars.

Also while I'm here, it still bothers me that the only muppets in the audience for Miss Piggy's show were Statler and Waldorf. They couldn't have peppered the audience so it was half Muppet, half human?

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elderberrykiwi t1_jdx6hhn wrote

Why is Gonzo so clearly Tracy Morgan to me?

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talldrseuss t1_jdx8khv wrote

I mean miss piggy was pretty much Jenna and Kermit was Liz. Rizzo the rat and Pepe the prawn were the writing guys. I basically describe the 2015 show as the 30 Rock muppets. Which is why I loved it

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DisturbedNocturne t1_jdx86wv wrote

If I recall, they did eventually shift from Miss Piggy's show being a talkshow to a variety one, but most of the focus of the show was still on the behind-the-scenes stuff. Had they used that format and included sketches, it might've worked well. I think it was just too far away from what people expected of a Muppets television show.

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YakMan2 t1_je02o8r wrote

Muppets 2015 was really finding its footing by the end, it's a shame it didn't get one more season.

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