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ArsBrevis OP t1_jdfnv35 wrote

Replying to MoreThanAFeeling1976 (#2,328,223)

Yes - not able to edit the title unfortunately.

I'm not sure that the reboot is going to be all that more successful. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. It seems like they should let different creatives take a crack at this 'franchise'.

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Herramadur t1_jdfod01 wrote

I love Showtime, the fact that they even gave this show three seasons is amazing considering I doubt it was a big draw.

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nobodyaskedyouxx t1_jdfoo6q wrote

i just wish this show was…better. i don’t understand why it is so difficult to hire people who can write a cohesive story.

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TimeTravelMishap t1_jdfpm2t wrote

.. am I old now? On this subreddit I'm constantly learning about shows when they get canceled

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lightsongtheold t1_jdft5ew wrote

No Showtime series has been renewed since the January announcement that the premium cable network will be integrated into Paramount+ across both streaming and linear later this year and renamed as Paramount+ with Showtime.

Showtime is dead. Only stuff surviving will be Billions, Yellowjackets, and The Chi. The rest of the stuff is done. They will just mirror the Paramount+ shows on cable to fill out the time slots and buy in some cheap co-productions from the UK.

I expect them to be announcing they are dropping the second season of Super-Pumped any day now. They have already pulled the first season from the service.

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doomsyrup t1_jdfuj2l wrote

Look, I'm not gonna lie - the first season was alright but my partner and I ended up watching the next two seasons as a pure, guilty pleasure hate watch. The dialogue was terrible, storylines were well intentioned but went nowhere, character motivations and relationships would change on a dime (they kept trying to convince us that Sophie was a good person...she was awful!!!), and song choices were so obvious that lyrics would basically act as secondary exposition.

Despite it all - this will always have a very special place in my heart because there was nothing more comforting to us during lockdown than getting takeaway and making an event out of watching this wonderful mess of a show.

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Queen_Of_InnisLear t1_jdg6qvq wrote

I knew this would happen when my favourite character/major part of my sexual awakening Tasha finally came back 😭

Look, was the show good? No. Did I watch it anyway? Absolutely. And would have continued to do so.

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[deleted] t1_jdg73g5 wrote

Some of these shows that get canceled have writers rooms of newbies. No one who has a decent amount of experience writing for TV or long form are writing TV anymore.

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roundeyeddog t1_jdgd9pe wrote

It really suffered from the lack of John De Lancie.

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pppppppppppp13 t1_jdge9uc wrote

THANK GOD!!!! It was so bad. Can’t believe no one has been able to recreate a show quite like The L Word. Gen Q went overboard with too many story lines and a lack of depth. It felt like a tick the box exercise with “how many LGBTQ….. letters can we shove in one scene?”

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Archamasse t1_jdgh6m8 wrote

Something about Gen Q didn't click. The OG L Word was never exactly Shakespeare but there was a blackly comic wit in it not unlike OITNB that kind of carried it, and this just didn't have that.

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idiotgoosander t1_jdgo3zs wrote

I was just thinking how there’s so many things right now going that it’s exhausting to think about and then I scrolled past this and actually went “noooooo” aloud

Nooooooooooo why god why

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CaptNewbz t1_jdgp0lc wrote

Replying to pppppppppppp13 (#2,330,886)

> THANK GOD!!!!!

I will never, for the life of me, understand this mentality. Why are you happy that something you didn’t enjoy and weren’t forced to watch is now not on anymore? Your life will not change now that it’s over. And it would not have changed had it stayed on. Can you explain celebrating the end of something you weren’t required to partake in?

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ForscherVerrat t1_jdgsse6 wrote

Thank god! That last season was garbage with sprinkles of Bette/Tina gay bait.

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Starbuck107 t1_jdgwkgz wrote

We get Tasha's return just for it to be cancelled :(

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lflippz t1_jdgyoa1 wrote

Replying to CaptNewbz (#2,331,700)

Not Op but I can try to explain because I too am happy that something I didn’t enjoy is not on anymore. The showrunner and writers don’t deserve any more screen time. They ruined the series and we feel vindicated.

I’m addition, with Marja & co NOT sucking all the air out of the room and fumbling her opportunity, now the original show runner has a chance to redeem the series. This is good.

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katprime420 t1_jdgyofx wrote

Could see it coming a mile away.

The showrunner really dropped the ball with this reboot. It was very poor compared to the OG season.

Leisha, Kate and Beals weren't even happy with it.

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__Hello_my_name_is__ t1_jdh5z40 wrote

Replying to nobodyaskedyouxx (#2,328,349)

Writing on a strict deadline is actually really damn hard. Especially when you have to consider all the realities of budget (can we even afford that scene?), availability (oh, these two characters that should interact in that episode just.. can't. Huh.) and producers meddling in your writing (I gotta change my big plot twist because the producers didn't like it what the fuck that was the entire fucking point of that fucking story aaaaaaaaaaaargh).

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lessmiserables t1_jdh8a9y wrote

Replying to ArsBrevis (#2,328,390)

> Too many new shows, not enough good writers or good plots.

Not true. There's thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of perfectly talented writers that could easily produce some amazing television.

Unfortunately, the entertainment industry refuses to let you try unless your return address is in LA, and thus have to already have a bunch of money to live in one of the most expensive cities which gatekeeps a lot of talent.

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CokedUpAirhead t1_jdh8tn1 wrote

Hopefully this frees up Jamie Clayton to be on a better show. She’s great and I miss her on sense8.

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Luka_Dunks_on_Bums t1_jdhaf0l wrote

At least it avoided the Showtime curse of being on the air for 10 years

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grandmofftalkin t1_jdhd310 wrote

The final season was bizarre. My favorite power women, Bette, Gigi and Dani, disappeared halfway and somehow Rosie O'Donnell became the lead.

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Cardboard_Robot t1_jdhf2hn wrote

I watched one episode of that show and it was insufferable.

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m1kasa4ckerman t1_jdhgdzi wrote

Replying to MoreThanAFeeling1976 (#2,328,223)

I hope that part is true! I think it is, since the creator tweeted this same article. The premise is what everyone wanted in the first place. Not whatever this box-ticking lazy show was. Plus the show runner was trash. I’m still confused as to how she had so much power with such a brief resume.

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MrPunkerton t1_jdhh6sw wrote

Generation “Q”?!?! This was a thing?? I fucking hate human beings

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jb6997 t1_jdhp4az wrote

It’s not good. Surprised it lasted this long. Original was great.

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Bellyflops93 t1_jdhqceo wrote

Replying to Archamasse (#2,331,157)

Ive said the same thing. The original had issues but at least it often made me laugh, it was entertaining! This version of the show was like episode after episode of queer people having serious conversations about serious topics and apologizing to each other, which wouldnt be that big a deal to me if it was interspersed with more actually fun and funny scenes/moments. And a lot of characters in the OG had good, believable chemistry, I didnt feel much of that in this version. I didnt have FUN watching this one the way I did the original

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SilverSuferNorr t1_jdhuinz wrote

Replying to lightsongtheold (#2,328,815)

I...I don't get them. Seriously they are always rebooting.

They had shows to build upon, City hall, let the right one in, the man who fell to earth, etc.

Instead of rebooting, promote it and if it's not working tell the showrunners to fix it.

The constant reboots and cancellations do nothing but have them start all over again. They are literally kicking their own a** at this point.

Who's running things over there.

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Ueladee t1_jdhvy1d wrote

Now bring back Sepideh as Gigi PLEASE

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myassholealt t1_jdi83e0 wrote

I knew this was coming with the Paramount+ and Showtime consolidation.

Would've easily gotten 5 seasons at least before.

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myassholealt t1_jdic7hg wrote

Replying to Archamasse (#2,331,157)

The characters didn't really have much depth to them. They all came across as surface level, where all you have is the 2 sentence description a writer comes up with when building a rough draft of their character list. And at times it felt like it was being used as a vehicle to educate the audience rather than tell stories. You don't need to present representation and inclusivity as a PSA.

Conflicts were predictable. Reactions were predictable. Basically was as cheesy as a daytime soap opera.

Nevertheless I still watched it, cause we have almost no shows like this, and am disappointed it got cancelled.

Get a better team behind it. Don't just kill it. So we'll see what happens with the reboot.

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-Clayburn t1_jdigl6m wrote

Well hopefully it was a good run. I was a big fan of the original L Word and wanted to check this out at some point, but I prefer binging the whole thing.

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SnooDingos316 t1_jdiiv6m wrote

I watched and love the original L word. It was kind of groundbreaking at that time. I also watched the New L word Generation Q for 2 seasons mostly for nostagia. It was honestly not very good. There was no new stuffs and even the sex was kind of boring.

Did not watch the 3rd season.

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im_a_dick_head t1_jdim8hr wrote

I actually enjoyed this show about as much as the original, less inter characters and the writing wasn't as good but entertaining still. Shane is basically the only character I actually like.

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Buckowski66 t1_jdixcw2 wrote

Well, they can at least say for 3 seasons they licked the competition

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aw-un t1_jdj8nyd wrote

Replying to lessmiserables (#2,333,265)

This one drives me absolutely bonkers.

I just don’t unserstand why writers need to be based in LA.

I work crew in Atlanta and while, on average, most of the crew and about half of the cast are locals, the writers are always based in LA. My current show is even based in Atlanta and you can always tell the writers have never set foot here from the scripts. And it just doesn’t make sense.

Like, the showrunner is here running the show and they’re conducting the writers room in LA and they just join via zoom and then they fly the writers out and house them to produce their episodes. They could honestly expand the talent pool and save money if they would just hire just as talented writers that live here.

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lessmiserables t1_jdj9spa wrote

Replying to aw-un (#2,341,394)

I agree. Writing is one of the jobs tailor-made for remote work.

Last time I mentioned it, I got a lot of people telling me "how important it was for everyone to be physically in the same room to write" as if that isn't the same load of bullshit middle managers around the country are trotting out right now.

I can maybe, possibly see a case could be made for fast-turnaround stuff like SNL or The Daily Show where you have to interact quickly and frequently with the actors, but by and large I think it's all horseshit.

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Logical_Hare t1_jdkc5lm wrote

Replying to lightsongtheold (#2,328,815)

They should reboot Oz. TV hasn't traumatized me enough lately.

Then, they should reboot Red Shoe Diaries, which was on after Oz and was the only reason I, as a teenager, sometimes watched Oz in the first place (but Christ did it turn out to be good television).

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nahnopenoway_ t1_jdkfifi wrote

If anyone had told my baby gay ass from years ago that the fucking L WORD would get rebooted, turn out to be a heinous offence of the highest degree, get cancelled and that I’d be celebrating the news, I would have never believed them. Yet here we are.

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