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crazynife t1_je6rzu4 wrote

Just provide the ship with adequate overhead lighting or something, whatever it is.

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anasui1 t1_je780i1 wrote

"Under Alex Kurtzman’s watchful eye, the Star Trek franchise has balanced this incredibly well so far"

bahaha

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Creski t1_je7zni4 wrote

I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught that and rolled my eyes, this feels like a paid puff piece by someone who is trying to save their job.

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Zalack t1_jebewm1 wrote

I haven't watched a lot of the newer Trek, but I enjoyed my time with Strange New Worlds, overall. My favorite part of Trek has always been the optimism and exploration of ethical dilemmas. I felt like the series delivered on that for me.

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007meow t1_jebqd0l wrote

SNW's been great.

Discovery has been a polarizing mixed bag but Picard Season 1/2 were downright awful.

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twbrn t1_jed518o wrote

> Picard Season 1/2 were downright awful.

Both those seasons were way better than season 2+ of Discovery.

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Creski t1_je7ze80 wrote

"Under Alex Kurtzman’s watchful eye, the Star Trek franchise has balanced this incredibly well so far."

No....No it has not.

[Edit: Looked at the author's history and low and behold she wrote a puff piece about TLJ, Rian Johnson, and how great it was for the franchise]

Discovery has it's fans but only caused canon problems and is Star Trek at it's absolute worst so much so they had to force so far into the future it couldn't damage anything.

(I would argue Discovery would have never survived if it's first 2 seasons weren't paid for by Netflix overpaying for international distrubution rights)

Lower Decks while has it's moments is just "remember this?"

Picard Season 1 and 2 were absolute garbage, 2 is an affront to your intelligence.

SNW was finally good but the only Star Trek show that actually tried to be Star Trek.

Picard Season 3 has been good, but is held back by the baggage Kurtzman has caused.

you have two good seasons of Star Trek agains 6 bad ones and animated series that is meant to be a joke.

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AmishAvenger t1_je934p9 wrote

Yeah there was definitely a lecturing tone to the article. Don’t tell me what is or isn’t Star Trek.

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twbrn t1_jed73k0 wrote

>Picard Season 1 and 2 were absolute garbage

Hard disagree. So many people hated it just for the fact that it actually tried something a little bit new, without having any kind of cogent criticism other than "Its just bad! BAAD BAAAD!"

> SNW was finally good but the only Star Trek show that actually tried to be Star Trek.

SNW was okay, but let's not pretend that six good episodes out of ten is setting any kind of records.

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MadeByTango t1_jeemebw wrote

> without having any kind of cogent criticism other than "Its just bad! BAAD BAAAD!"

SPOILERs

  1. Picard is dead at the end of the series, replaced by an Android, still old, and it's not acknowledged

  2. The entire core structure clearly changed halfway through the season and they had zero idea what to do with their premonition angle

  3. Picard wasn't a fantastic action hero at 47...watching him survive exploding rooftops at 77 was a huge ask

  4. His character went from intelligent thinker to "whee!"

  5. His crew member kills a man in cold blood and its ok because it was a hard decision for her?

  6. The CGI was cheap

  7. Ripped off Mass Effect's ending, using stock footage

There is more but it's been a while since I suffered through it.

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DaveShadow t1_je5qjuh wrote

It felt the last episode, which was so full of great nostalgia, also seemed to be testing such an idea. Jack sitting in the captains chair, talking to Seven, and the scenes with the LaForge daughters, felt like a testing of chemistry with them in mind.

Have a show with a mix of new and old characters. Occassionally link stuff back to the past, but don't be afraid to create new stories in that timeline either. Not overly focused on prequels, but not afraid of new stories that continue on in the main time line (unlike Discovery's insistence of jumping a few hundred years into the future, as if it's terrified of having old heads pop up).

Let me catch up with what happened the DS9 and Voyager crews, please!

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Prax150 t1_je60ekn wrote

> Have a show with a mix of new and old characters.

That's exactly what Terry Matalas has been pushing. The Titan crew we're already starting to know with older characters popping up, maybe dealing with the politics of the alpha quadrant after all of this. Old characters can pop up as needed and they can go on their own new adventures too. Go to Bajor to deal with a trade dispute and Garak and Kira are there. Get orders from Admiral Janeway one episode. Have Geordi talk to his daughter sometimes. But not every week.

Please don't make Jack the captain, though? We already did the "plucky young ahole somehow becomes the captain over everyone more experienced than him" thing in ST09 and it made sense there, we don't need it here. I like Shaw as the stubborn damaged captain who's hands off, stays in his ready room or quarters when not needed so Commander Seven has most of the responsibility. Jack can be chief medical officer I guess. The other Laforge daughter can be in engineering.

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cadtek t1_je66448 wrote

> Get orders from Admiral Janeway one episode

Somehow link it to Prodigy too.

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Frankfusion t1_je7ah33 wrote

Season one of this crew is now worked together and has been season by dealing with the changeling problem. Now they have to go to Deep Space 9 to get orders from Kyra because there’s still some terrorist groups running around the beat a quadrant. Season one can beat them making sure there’s no one else trying anything stupid. Season finale should be with them dealing with it  As well as character growth for Jack. They should make him an acting ensign.  There should also be some serious repercussions for the better quadrant.

 Season two things are fine. It looks like the Cardassians are Jo ining the Federation, but a civil war breaks out. It looks like the other side definitely has some heavy hitters helping them out like the Breen and maybe some old Jem Hadar, just for the heck of it. More character growth definitely lots of space battles, and even political intrigue. Some old familiar faces from deep space nine and Voyager show up to help.

 Season 3 Seven s missing. No one knows if she’s alive or not, but Jack and the rest of the ensigns takeoff on their own by borrowing the defiant. Shaw could bring the hammer down on them but he gives them cover and they go off on their own crazy mission. Turns out now that the borg want to join the Federation a lot of their old enemies have come back to try and hunt them down and seven is trying to find a home world for them. the new world is in the Delta quadrant. Janeway Tuvok and captain Harry Kim are all involved.

 Season four has them return to the beta quadrant.  Captain Ezri Dax has made first contact with a new species.  The titan shows up to do second contact stuff, and this season can actually just be a lot more fun and exploration, and it might even include cameos from Captain Boimler and his first officer Mariner. 

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Ground2ChairMissile t1_je5u9x0 wrote

I think you just described Next Generation.

Sure, they didn't have any old characters in the main cast, but characters and concepts from TOS showed up all the time, especially in the early seasons. And characters like Data and Riker were meant to be direct analogs to Spock and Kirk.

As for Discovery's time jump...I think that was just to give Strange New Worlds some room to play around without stepping on another show's toes. The producers saw how popular those episodes with the Enterprise were and decided that the fans would like to literally jump ship, but they'd already invested so much in Discovery as the flagship show of the franchise that they couldn't drop it right away.

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Lambchops_Legion t1_je63zah wrote

> I think you just described Next Generation.

People want a Next Next Generation, the lack of it is what a lot of fans have been complaining about since the Disco launch

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AmishAvenger t1_je93244 wrote

Complaining about that…and the fact that Discovery is an abomination

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Prax150 t1_je60qri wrote

The end of S2 was filmed long before those episodes aired and SNW was greenlit. Maybe they thought they had something special with the Pike crew but I think it was more to just get out of that era after a lot of the criticism from S1 and do something different. Bear in mind they had changed showrunners like twice by that point too. It was a soft reboot.

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CFGX t1_je8hwvw wrote

>Let me catch up with what happened the DS9 and Voyager crews, please!

Please no, not with the way these trash shows just drag up old characters for the purpose of killing them off.

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slumpadoochous t1_je8q3u6 wrote

the only thing "unexpected" about Discovery's cancellation is that it took five seasons.

also, the section 31 show is a terrible idea that nobody asked for and I'm not sure anyone really wants. S31 only worked when it was an organization shrouded in mystery, and it was kind of killed as a concept back in Ds9 when they stripped back all those layers of mystery. Not to mention Yeoh's Discovery character is (through no fault of the actress) fucking stupid.

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wolfgang187 t1_je5qb2a wrote

Stories without end are the worst stories ever told.

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LeoIrish t1_je7viy2 wrote

Between the legacy characters and the children introduced this season, there are the components for a new series. At least for me, S3 is the closest to what I was hoping for in the Picard series. If they can pull that into a new series, then they could have something solid.

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