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LightThatIgnitesAll t1_j95ijuc wrote

Reply to comment by Deadlocked02 in It truly is super annoying how prevalent sexism is in nearly all of my favorite comedies from my upbringing. by [deleted]

>media. It’s just sexist about both genders

So are western ones it's just probably more normalised to you so you don't notice it.

>I guess the double standards annoy me more than the sexism itself in recent productions. The way they consciously try to avoid sexism against one gender, but not the other. The way most characters from one gender are upstanding, while the responsible for problems, prejudice and all bad things belong to the other.

Okay... I do see what you mean here and it's a shame you got downvoted for it. That is done more awkwardly overt the last few years.

This is why shows like BCS and ATLA are nice to watch, it treats both its male and female characters with respect.

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Deadlocked02 t1_j95j857 wrote

It is, but not even close. And they make a conscious effort to try to move away from sexism against female characters and are many times written by people who consider themselves feminists.

In Japanese media they just don’t seem to have a compromise with political correctness for any gender. I can think of a few Japanese sexist tropes that are applied to both genders in most productions. The pervert male being played for laughs, the stalker tsundere or the female characters who physically assaults male characters, which is played for laughs too.

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LightThatIgnitesAll t1_j95jmcf wrote

>It is, but not even close. And they make a conscious effort to try to move away from sexism against female characters and are many times written by people who consider themselves feminists.

It's a weird situation of poor writers. Some feel like the only way to elevate a demographic of characters is to put another demographic down.

>In Japanese media they just don’t seem to have a compromise with political correctness for any gender. I can think of a few Japanese sexist tropes that are applied to both genders in most productions. The pervert male being played for laughs, the stalker tsundere or the female characters who physically assaults male characters, which is played for laughs too.

Yeh... although even if it's "fair" I'd rather not have either.

Have you watched Korean shows? What do you think of their stance on this?

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Deadlocked02 t1_j95ko8e wrote

> Have you watched Korean shows? What do you think of their stance on this?

They feel closer to Japanese productions to me than Western ones, which isn’t really surprising, considering they’re both Asian countries.

Many of their productions seem to have a wider political meaning (like criticizing capitalism or Korean society), but they don’t seem very concerned about gender or being politically correct. As I said, that’s more palatable to me than double standards.

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LightThatIgnitesAll t1_j95ktxe wrote

>but they don’t seem very concerned about gender or being politically correct.

Some of them do like Extraodinary Attorney Woo. I think it worked really well in those episodes.

>As I said, that’s more palatable to me than double standards.

Yeh fair enough. Not a fan of Hollywood's weird double standards. It feels like a lot of "strong women" character arch types just takes traits associated with "toxic maculinity" but then is presented as a positive thing lol.

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