Fallcious t1_j8vhxk9 wrote
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My opinion on that was that the single hero shows were focused on smaller stakes that only needed one hero (+ sidekicks) to deal with. The team ups (a la Avengers) needed a world threatening enemy or situation to drive a need for the team to assemble. If Iron Man or Spider-Man could deal with it, then why bother?
The latest Doctor Strange movie was more like the earlier movies - it was a smaller threat that only really needed the involvement of Dr Strange and his colleagues.
Takseen t1_j8wzuwj wrote
>The latest Doctor Strange movie was more like the earlier movies it was a smaller threat
Multiverse of madness? The one where the entire multiverse was at risk from an unstoppable reality warper?
Fallcious t1_j8x16wp wrote
I’m going to have to watch it again, but I thought it was Strange’s reckless use of the Darkhold in the other realities which destroyed them, but in our universe he was just trying to stop Maximoff from stealing Chavez dimension jump capabilities. The Illuminati thought Strange was the biggest threat rather than Maximoff. In our reality Maximoff was up to no good and was a rising threat, but I don’t remember her actually putting our reality in jeopardy.
Takseen t1_j8x34yq wrote
I think she wanted to rule rather than destroy the multiverse. But in any case, having one of the other Stranges being responsible for the destruction of one or more universes is pretty high stakes.
garlicroastedpotato t1_j8xob0i wrote
The way incursions were introduced in the universe was via being moving between universes. This created a bridge that connected the two universes and then if one universe doesn't destroy the other... they both get destroyed.
Doctor Strange and America Chavez teleport to a planet that has survived an incursion... but was also the cause of it. Instead of beating Thanos as the Avengers did... they beat him by Doctor Strange casting a spell (via the Darkhold). Which caused an incursion. Moving between universes can cause an incursion if the footprint left is large enough.
With what Strange, America and Witch were doing in the past, it wasn't large enough to cause an incursion. But what Witch intends to do at the end "stealing Chavez's powers and travel to a universe where she has kids" it would cause an incursion. Stopping Scarlet Witch isn't just to save Chavez... but the entire universe.
It's also the sort of really bad explanation of what will end up being the main plot point for the Kang movies. Kang is going to war with other universes and can preserve his reality by destroying their's. This gives impure motives for heroes who want to fight to keep their reality but also don't want to destroy someone else's.
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