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NitroLotus t1_j901b72 wrote

Probably the last season. Never heard much good about this show and it never comes up anywhere. People who have watched, am I wrong?

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spickerson OP t1_j9043l6 wrote

I like it but I like the world building much more than the story if I’m being honest.

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Feral0_o t1_j90giao wrote

yep. But I could have lived without the Beauty and the Beast subplot

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Untalented-Host t1_j90exp5 wrote

> Probably the last season

Not probably, it has been completely confirmed. The show was cancelled a few months ago. Season 2 will be the last

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NoNefariousness2144 t1_j90kj52 wrote

At least the writers knew this and they wrote this season to be the last.

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kudzunc t1_j90u842 wrote

That is always gift, many studios finally get this about letting shows have an ending and/or doing each season as chapter with beginning middle and end. In case they don't get picked up, more people would be willing to invest into new shows if they knew they were likely to get killed off and the story left with major hanging plot questions.

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SoMantAltsLol t1_j93lcht wrote

you know what writers should also do a better job of not ending on cliffs

go watch the wire. each season wrapped up

had it been cancelled at any seasons end you still would have had at least most storylines wrapped up

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kudzunc t1_j93v872 wrote

I can see it from both sides, writers want to set up big events and are pressured to by studios/producers, but often are doing that when the studio has not firmly committed in ink on paper for next season is bad for business. Doing this abuses the trust the fans have with the show to not leave them hanging. Once that trust is broken, it's hard to regain it. Just like with trust in real life.

Plus their was the "ALF" show where the writers and show staff tried to force the studios to give them another season by having the show end on huge cliff hanger, while knowing that was going to be their last episode. They scorched the bridge over the river and the villages on both sides of the river with that poorly thought out plan. The studios got the hate mail, the fans felt burned and a show that could have went out with an epic ending, went being known for "What not to do with your series" lesson.

I'm a fan of each season being a Chapter or "Book Ends" per each season, you can still have long running story arcs and themes but each season has a beginning, middle and end.

Take the series Showtime/ J.J. Abrams "Roadies" (think of it like tv series of the film "Almost Famous"), great series but got the Ax. Luckily Cameron Crowe wrote the season to be a complete story in case they weren't picked up for the second season. The story of the characters would easily go on, but that was good ending point. In case they didn't get the seasons they were promised.

Compare that to Carnival Row (yes Covid issues...) that they left it on such a cliff hanger then took 5 years, that they will have to spend multiple episodes rebuilding up the story universe as people have forgotten and moved on. Fans were pissed off on how they were treated. On short seasons or low episode per year you shouldn't pull major cliff hangers, that you won't come back to for 10-12 months to shoot the next parts. In a show that has episodes all year(20-ish) that is already back filming before the last episode(s) in prior season runs, the show can pivot and bring it for landing. Like how the series "New Amsterdam" did.

Take "Grey's Anatomy" , I can't stand to watch it because canonical universe is so bad. That hospital has had so many of the worst world tragedies at it, no one would want to work there and no would want to do their residencies there. Because every year the worst shit happens in the world at that one location, its like volunteering to be in first wave on suicide charge in war.

Ever since that "Who shot J.R." from "Dallas" big post season public & media obsession, shows have been trying to do a re-capture of that with cliff hanger season endings much to fans frustration. So much that many viewers just wait until the show's season is out before investing time and emotional buy in, and this may even take there being multiple seasons. Which without those viewers studios are fast to kill off show and the wonder why shows get less and less viewers, when they treat the fans(viewers) like crap and do story lines just to screw with their emotions for ratings.

The good thing is we have a whole generation of people coming into power in the industry as producers, directors, show runners that grew up with that and many of their favorite shows jerked out from under them. Ones people are still talking about years/decades later. They see their viewers and fan base as part of production something to treat with more care instead of something to jerk around for their amusement because look at all the online conversations.

Compared against say Kirkman of "The Walking Dead" he was an ass as the comic's writers and even pushed out the endingof the series issue while release covers and summaries of the next issues into the trade industry news sources for pre-ordering.... With the series he has only become worse towards the fan base, as his puppets to make dance around, because he thinks he can do no wrong with all the cash... When his franchise burns out finally, I'll be sad for some of the characters and their actors but happy he is out of the picture.

The Wire is good show, not my cup of tea, but I see why people like it. I wish it would have clicked with me. I had the same issue with "Fringe"

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flouronmypjs t1_j913at3 wrote

Everyone keeps saying this but has it been confirmed? The cancellation announcement was made well after the second season finished filming. I wasn't so sure that the writers were given the head's up necessary to tie up loose ends.

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civil_politician t1_j9025yi wrote

I liked it. It seems like something that might have a hard time finding the right audience

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GrayAdams t1_j909e1j wrote

I loved it but high fantasy settings are my cup of tea.

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sara-ragnarsdottir t1_j90apb5 wrote

My opinion: the show had an interesting premise, an otherworldly music score and a beautiful scenography, but the acting was underwhelming, and the writing itself became weaker and weaker as it went on.

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caliguian t1_j90mtvi wrote

My wife and I really liked it. I hope this second season is as good.

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flouronmypjs t1_j913n8h wrote

It's an uneven show. But on the balance, I really like it. There is some weak acting that I find distracting. Dialogue could have been written better in places. And the special effects are not as strong as in the more expensive fantasy shows.

But the story of season 1 was fantastic. The characters are generally well fleshed out. The world is fascinating and somewhat unique. The music is wonderful. The visuals of the show (apart from some special effects stuff) really draw you in. The politics of the world feel real. The whole thing is very engaging.

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ministerkosh t1_j90tud5 wrote

it had an interesting premise, very good cast but lacked in writing. Especially the later episodes had so much themes they wanted to explore, but barely anything worked anymore. Too bad, I had so much hope when I started to watch it.

But I will definitely look into the second season.

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Werewomble t1_j916sxx wrote

The setting is great.

Getting dumped back into I Can't Believe It's Not London for some shit acting for the rest of the filler episodes was rough.

Jarred Harris was in it and I didn't care. I would have wrestled a polar bear for him in The Terror. Or the Expanse or Chernobyl. A radioactive one. Melting.

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TJ_Fox t1_j91ytc7 wrote

It's a decent steampunk/fantasy concept; basically, "the Fae" - beings that are mythological in our reality, like fauns and faeries - are living creatures in this world, but there's a lot of prejudice against them from the human majority. Intrigue and some action ensues when a bunch of Fae refugees end up living in Carnival Row, a slum district in a majority-human city.

The problem is that the two protagonists (a faerie radical played by Cara Delivingne and a human cop played by Orlando Bloom) are kind of boring. The glimpses of life in Carnival Row often suggest events and characters who are more interesting than the leads, which gets frustrating.

Production design is good, though.

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tiktaktok_65 t1_j90dbgo wrote

first season was an interesting setup. 2nd season has a weak start.

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