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AlexMelillo t1_j8ib19f wrote

My dad travelled to NYC for work often. 3-4 times a year for over 20 years. He talks about Giuliani reviving New York and how he saw it getting noticeably better when he was the mayor.

Kinda sad the dude was a crook all along. Or so it seems

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tidho t1_j8izg97 wrote

This is true, but it's not aligned with the acceptable reddit narrative as it actually gives him credit for legitimate accomplishments.

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Stillatin t1_j8oncsw wrote

Because he didn't do shit, crime was falling every year since dinkins, of course he's going to take credit, but his civic cleanup campaign was garbage. The only thing he did right was make Bratton the police commissioner. That's who really cleaned the city up. Everybody else was already doing their part in cleaning the city before Giuliani came in. Look up Nathan glazer, Dan biederman, Herbert sturz if you don't believe me.

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tidho t1_j8oq347 wrote

so was it Dinkins or was it Bratton?

If Bratton was a good hire, the credit for that goes to Giuliani, that's how executive positions work.

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Stillatin t1_j8ouccx wrote

It's everybody but Giuliani, if you want to be simple minded

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tidho t1_j8outf9 wrote

got it.

guy he hired 'really cleaned the city up' but don't credit Giuliani because we don't like him for being too Trump.

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Stillatin t1_j8ov38q wrote

The fuck are you talking about, i actually live in the damn city. Where the hell do you live, foh

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tidho t1_j8ovi5l wrote

I don't live in the city, I'm basing my comments off the word of someone that lives in the city.

> The only thing he did right was make Bratton the police commissioner. That's who really cleaned the city up.

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Stillatin t1_j8p5vpb wrote

I'm talking about your original comment you jackass, literally the reason why I even replied to your slow ass

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tidho t1_j8pr1gd wrote

yes, i suggested he should get credit for the clean up

then you corrected me by saying he shouldn't, because the guy he hired was actually responsible for the clean up

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