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VeterinarianThese951 t1_j8hofk4 wrote

Right?! I used to say that all the time. Always a douche and it boggles my mind how people decided to not know until his recent buffoonery. 911 was his meal ticket. He literally didn’t have to do shit. Forest Gump coulda mayored himself out of that disaster because there was nowhere to go but up.

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parabostonian t1_j8hwgjn wrote

I remember Jon Stewart analyzing a Giuliani speech that was like 4 minutes long where he said 9/11 like 40 something times. And IIRC it was a college graduation several years later, lol.

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keksmuzh t1_j8iv6be wrote

It’s not an uncommon phenomenon in politics. One big event or personal story point somehow overshadows every horribly thing in their history.

John McCain coasted on nepotism and his POW status despite some nasty shit in his personal life and flight conduct that would’ve gotten any normal pilot grounded.

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan let Bush Jr skate by numerous administrative problems at the time, and after the propaganda surrounding the wars fell apart he’d already won re-election.

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shecky_blue t1_j8jjqrd wrote

Hard to compare being the NYC mayor on 9/11 to having your airplane shot down and being locked up in a north Vietnamese POW camp for six years.

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keksmuzh t1_j8jl804 wrote

That’s the thing: McCain never should’ve been in a position to get shot down in Vietnam in the first place. He flew recklessly and crashed several planes domestically. He only kept his wings because his family had a lot of say in the military.

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shecky_blue t1_j8kgywq wrote

So, I’m hardly a McCain apologist (see: Palin, Sarah) but didn’t he refuse a prisoner transfer which would have gotten him out early because he was in fact an admiral’s son? I could be wrong there.

He wasn’t as much of a badass as Admiral Stockdale though, who cut himself with a razor and bashed himself in the face so he couldn’t be paraded around by the Viet Cong.

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AmishAvenger t1_j8mdbfq wrote

That is correct. They wanted to release him as propaganda. He refused to go unless everyone who’d been taken prisoner ahead of him was released first.

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VeterinarianThese951 t1_j8kiyzh wrote

Too badass for me. I am a big sissy when it comes to pain.

I would have been on the parade float like the grand marshal…

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