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indoninja t1_j5zz2e0 wrote

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You are asking why he didn’t try something he knew the companies would say no to?

Biden pushed for a law that Democrats overwhelmingly supported that was blocked in the senate to give the union what you are talking about.

And the only people you are blaming is Biden and democrats, not the people who actually blocked it.

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stuntmanbob86 t1_j600w69 wrote

How do you know that they would say no? We dont, cause he didnt even try. Why would he push the agreement he helped create if he knew the workers werent going to pass it? Like I said, the bill was only on the table because of Sanders, Biden didn't do dick. I dont know hoe many times I have to say that Republicans are just as much garbage as democrats are in Congress.

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indoninja t1_j601dsf wrote

> Why would he push the agreement he helped create if he knew the workers werent going to pass it?

He didn’t know that and almost half did accept that.

He clearly knew the companies would t take it because they didn’t have to ask thousands to find out, they had a no for that at the table

> Republicans are just as much garbage as democrats are in Congress.

Almost every democratic supported it while majority of republicans were against it and Biden clearly was for it.

I dont get the mental gymnastics to look at that and say both sides, and I am done repeating the ame facts you are ignoring.

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stuntmanbob86 t1_j603zev wrote

Almost half accepted it? You think if Trump got almost half the votes and they just said "fuck it, he almost got half the votes he's president", lol..... How would he think that a contract that literally gave the workers nothing that they asked for would pass? Biden was clearly for forcing the contract. That was it. The sick days was Bernies bill. All of Congress damaged unions in general for years to come. Guess what's gonna happen in a couple years? Carriers will push as hard as they can and the workers will get fucked. The carriers knew the government was on their side. Tell me you're anti-union without telling me you're anti-union, lol.......

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indoninja t1_j607aid wrote

Do you not know how this works?

The meeting was between union ladies and the corporations. They knew corporations would say no to the sick days. They had a plan corp would accept and union would vote on. And about half accepted it.

That doesn’t mean I like it or think it was good, but it does mean it had a decent level of support.

You keep pretending Biden had powe to do something else to force companies to take the seven sick days and that is flat out wrong.

Almost every democratic supported it while majority of republicans were against it and Biden clearly was for it. I dont get the mental gymnastics to look at that and say both sides, and I am done repeating the ame facts you are ignoring.

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stuntmanbob86 t1_j60u5z0 wrote

You dont seem to understand how it works. The panel is supposed to be indepedent, they dont make the contract. They write a report with what should go into the contract. That doesn't mean they had to put it in the contract, there was no risk in doing that other than it makes the carriers look bad. If Biden was for sick days he would had made sure there was sick days in the contract.

Workers didn't get anything they wanted. The only reason some passed was because they were scared that they would have a worse one forced on them. The unions that passed it were close, not any landslides by any means.

Like I said, logical next step was a second EB. A different perspective with different members. There is no logical reason he didn't do that. It set a dangerous precedent.

We will just have to keep fighting until the government comes in and shuts us down. You don't find it disturbing congress, even democrats, take money from the carriers?

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stuntmanbob86 t1_j6056uw wrote

Honestly though, why did he not just make a new board and see what happens vs forcing a failed contract? That would had extended things and avoid the strike.

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indoninja t1_j606see wrote

A new board wouldn’t extend it.

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stuntmanbob86 t1_j608g1n wrote

Yes it would. A second board would allow 30 days for a new report and 60 for cooldown.

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