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tehmlem t1_j697xzi wrote

That tracks. It's got the same weary, defeated look as someone who recently turned 40

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pwalkz t1_j69cqeu wrote

This is a weird ass title. How could a clone critically endanger a horse using DNA?

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lemmy1686 t1_j69f885 wrote

Replying to pwalkz (#1,558,133)

It's perfectly clear that they critically endangered a 42 year old horse right before they cloned it. I mean is it really even cloning if you don't hold it over a pit of spikes or something first?

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riskxz t1_j69xi0m wrote

Fucked up looking animal

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slumette t1_j6a7g08 wrote

Wouldn't the horse last like, a few more years at best? Since it's DNA is already 42 years old, wouldn't it's cells break down super fast? That happened to Dolly the sheep if I'm not mistaken

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scummy_shower_stall t1_j6ac02a wrote

Did nobody read the article? The original stallion’s sperm was frozen 42 years ago, not that the horse was 42.

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VariationMountain273 t1_j6am0la wrote

Have you seen the absolutely beautiful depictions of this kind of animal in the Chauvet caves? From 30k years ago.

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umidontremember t1_j6aqje2 wrote

Replying to scummy_shower_stall (#1,563,628)

Not frozen sperm. A stallions DNA was frozen 42 years ago. Sperm would have half the chromosomes, this horse would not be a clone, and the stallion that had its DNA frozen 42 years ago would be its father, providing only half of the DNA.

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MOOSExDREWL t1_j6auhlq wrote

Replying to megapillowcase (#1,564,785)

It wasn't cloned using sperm, but it doesn't mention the age of the original horse the DNA was collected from, just that it was collected 42 years ago.

> A California zoo has announced the birth of a critically endangered horse, a clone created with DNA preserved for 42 years.

I'm no biologist, but if I had to guess I wouldn't think the age of the original specimen matters much in this case.

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super_aardvark t1_j6b2qdl wrote

Well I sure hope they were punished for that, and learned their lesson. Nobody should critically endanger a horse. How did the clones get their hands on 42-year-old DNA, anyway?

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Ok_Pizza9836 t1_j6b4e6p wrote

Cool but have we learned nothing from Jurassic park

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nickster182 t1_j6b4rt0 wrote

The Smithsonian zoo here in DC has some of these guys and they are fucking cool. The enclosure gets you pretty damn close to them too!

If any one ever gets the chance to go to the Smithsonian zoo in DC you should. Amazing experience every time I go.

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jules2689 t1_j6b9drr wrote

Replying to MOOSExDREWL (#1,566,844)

My understanding is very high level here, but cloning originally meant that the cloned animal would have a shortened life span. If the original animal was to live to 60, and was 30 when cloned - the cloned animal would only live for about 30 years. This hasn't held true for all clones though, and was theorized to be caused by shortened telomeres in the clones

This link explains it https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/animal-cloning/myths-about-cloning#Myth6

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slumette t1_j6b9sp2 wrote

Replying to Imaginary-Test-9384 (#1,567,140)

But did the original sheep die of a similar thing? I swear there was a scientific article that suggested since genetically when she was born she was already 6 years old, since that's how old the original Dolly was. So her living another 6 years was kinda like she already made it to 12? Cloning is still super confusing lmaooo

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quantumfucker t1_j6bjfq1 wrote

Replying to tehmlem (#1,557,373)

I thought I was edgy and jaded and politically cool at 15. Then I turned 25 and felt I was too idealistic and turned away from the world to focus on the few things in life I could control. Now I’m nearing 35 and it feels like you don’t really control anything, and everything good comes to an end. I hope cynicism operates on a horseshoe theory and by 70 I’ve somehow become enlightened.

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OGStreetCartoonist t1_j6bkbg0 wrote

Replying to slumette (#1,569,325)

You could be referring to something with the telomeres. I think the original cloning method used to clone dolly could run into an issue since they were replicating dna from a somatic cell. I dont think using gametes would run into this issue. Someone correct me if im mistaken.

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MaserGT t1_j6bt9ht wrote

So 42 really is the answer to the ultimate question of life.

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Phelpsy2519 t1_j6bx7zp wrote

Replying to tehmlem (#1,557,373)

Lol not far off. A common thing with cloned animals is they experience ‘oldness’ quicker. They get arthritis, frail bones etc. Depends how the cloning was done but if it was somatic cell nuclear transfer, it’s because of the ‘dna donor’s’ epigenetic tags. So the cloned animal will have some epigenetic tags of someone who has lived a life.

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AnonymousDavid t1_j6c53dk wrote

And you think they haven’t cloned a human by now..

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FalseTebibyte t1_j6c6rma wrote

"Black Beauty" given how my timeline has aligned.

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[deleted] t1_j6c7k4d wrote

Now bring back a T-rex and I'll be actually impressed!

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Ok-Ease7090 t1_j6c8vm4 wrote

Great so they saved it for captivity

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Shylightspeed_69 t1_j6c9ji0 wrote

Why didn't they do this to other species that are going extinct. Like some rhinos.

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klon3r t1_j6cdqcc wrote

DODO! I WANT a f*cking DODO! 🦤

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FinalBat4515 t1_j6ckbgo wrote

I wonder what the first human clone is up to

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kneaders t1_j6ddmex wrote

I hope they give it an old timey name.

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erosram t1_j6e5i4p wrote

Replying to aoechamp (#1,572,421)

When I was 15 I was very sheltered. When I was 25 to 35, I experimented too much. When I was in my forties I stopped judging myself so much and put more focus on what I can control today. In my fifties and sixties I realized that everyone is doing their best and to judge less in general. In my 70s, I stopped watching the world news, and spent time helping the people in my neighborhood. In my 80s and 90s, I stopped trying to fix what I saw with my physical eyes, and only worked on the issues I saw inside of myself. The early hundreds were about chipping away at why I desired the things I do. That was a long time ago, but the next few decades I think I was learning hobbies like the guitar.

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