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StugDrazil t1_j2y3tbl wrote

It’s a Chinese Spy app FFS. Why are people ignoring this? That app wants full access to your phone, it wants everything. Even worse, tik tok has publicly said that they have access to all your data, in China! Are you people dumb or something? You bitch and moan about privacy but here you are giving everything you do, say, text, snapshot and post to the Chinese military in exchange for likes and subscribes. Jeez listen and learn, but you won’t because your stupid.

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EssentiallyWorking t1_j2ydney wrote

Wtf does the chinese military want with my for you page

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Vannilazero t1_j2yy4lo wrote

It’s more important people in government ect. But anything they can pull from it that helps them with knowledge in the US is a plus for them

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mayonnaisepie99 t1_j30mqle wrote

If you have nothing to hide, why not let the government put a camera in every room of your house? Including the bathrooms

No wait let the Chinese government put a camera in every room in your house.

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PC-Bjorn t1_j33x35o wrote

There's at least two cameras in any room where you bring your phone.

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mayonnaisepie99 t1_j366y9d wrote

So if your own government spies on you, it’s no big deal to let a foreign government spy on you also? When did we start accepting that anyone can spy on us?

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Farseli t1_j2zcwlx wrote

Yeah, I'm just gonna go back and keep enjoying the content I get. Oh no, the Chinese military are gonna know I was watching a guy debunking faux-nutrition advice (like someone saying to avoid enriched wheat because it has synthetic vitamins and minerals that the body turns to fat despite not having any caloric value).

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90swasbest t1_j2zhgxd wrote

Most people are on there dancing or showing off their pets or looking for weird shit like feet vids or something.

Wtf good is that to the Chinese military?

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banana_man_777 t1_j30mx6a wrote

It's not just what you post that you give them access to. It's everything on your devices.

A possible use case? When are people more likely to be in certain areas? Essentially create population heat maps for use in a tactical war with the US for mass casualties. Or, perhaps, ways to politically influence the US for the benefit of China (like Russia has done).

Information is very powerful, and China is getting free access to droves of it.

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olqerergorp_etereum t1_j2zoh8q wrote

>Wtf good is that to the Chinese military?

it answer the question, are Americans stupid?

answer: yes

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Azurfant t1_j30knlw wrote

Its not about the content.... Its about the fact that downloading and having Tik Tok on your phone grants Tik Tok AKA China the ability to collect as much data as they allow themselves. It is a Trojan Horse that helps itself to every piece of data on your phone even though it shouldn't be allowed to collect data to any extent beyond its own user profile information.

Again, its not about the content on Tik Tok. Its about the fact that the app stealthily helps itself to collecting as much information about you (from your phone) as is possible. The Chinese government can, and will, use that data and anything else unsavory it can find (think in terms of blackmail) to threaten, or control people (like politicians) in the future.

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pixel_of_moral_decay t1_j30mi7t wrote

It’s also about the content.

What you create and consume.

That data is just like data of you browsing on Amazon. They use it to refine suggestions on what to show you next etc.

That also says a lot about your interests, political leanings, fetishes, medical issues etc. skipping certain videos or watching certain videos is feeding that algorithm. It knows you better than you know yourself. Hormones impact what interests/bores you before you even realize. Even menstrual cycles can be uncovered by data like this. Shopping habits can detect pregnancy before customers even realize their pregnant. People browse based on complex brain chemistry. Same thing goes for video and content you consume or create.

They could monetize it, use it for blackmail, use it as data points for misinformation campaigns etc.

I’m 100% convinced the whole antimask thing is a Russian and Chinese campaign to prove that they can perform a misinformation campaign at scale against a target. They convinced republicans who pride themselves on prepping for the end of the world with fallout shelters and gas masks to think a mask will kill them.

Imagine if they targeted US military and their families to desert? Or not wear necessary equipment? Or sabotage US assets.

They did that as a demo of what their misinformation weapon is capable of.

In 30 years this will be declassified and you’ll see this and the election interference were the real cuberwarfare. Not some “hackers” in a dark room with green text flying across a screen.

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Kevy96 t1_j326dho wrote

Because number 1: for every 1000 useless idiots, one useful idiot that information can be extracted from will eventually make it's way to China through TikTok

Number 2: the Chinese media controls what the people see if it wants them to, meaning that it can plant subliminal messages, or perhaps post videos that paint China in a better light while painting America in a bad light without TikTok users even knowing it, especially bearing mind that so many of them are kids that can't tell up from down in life yet

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th6 t1_j30twt7 wrote

Oh sweet summer child

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nicuramar t1_j2ze11o wrote

> It’s a Chinese Spy app FFS. Why are people ignoring this?

Probably because it’s claimed, but not actually demonstrated to be so. You could make a similar claim (without “Chinese”) about, say, Facebook.

> but here you are giving everything you do, say, text,

Actually, just the stuff you put on tiktok.

> Jeez listen and learn, but you won’t because your stupid.

Personal attacks make for very poor arguments.

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[deleted] t1_j30mvpx wrote

Exactly this. Plus China doesn’t let American media companies play in China, so why should they be allowed free market access here?

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jaam01 t1_j3131l8 wrote

The media and the government conveniently are telling the Tik Tok story backwards. If the USA actually cared about privacy, they could make legislation to protect users' data, but they don't, because their own spyware companies would have to abide to those same laws (fairness), but of course, protecting users data and privacy is not in the interests of the USA's government. In fact, the FBI opposed Apple when they announced they are going to end to end encrypt the iPhone's iCloud back up, because "we could no longer snoop into it, think of the terrorists and children!" (yes, they practically said that). Also, this companies make you renounce your right to a class action lawsuit, so just the wealthy and people living in the USA can protect their rights against them. "Do as I say not as I do" "Rules for thee but not for me" "It's not bad when I'm the one doing it" The USA has no credibility to criticize Tik Tok.

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justsomeoneSILLY t1_j30hyjz wrote

Dear Conservative/Fascist, please tell me the top 10 things that the Chinese military is doing with my data. Tell me the scariest one first please. I'll wait.

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DarkISO t1_j30gi17 wrote

You really think they use it to spy? And you call others stupid...

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YesOfficial t1_j2yd2e9 wrote

Ohhhh nooooes not the chisneees. im scured.

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