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Aperron t1_j6n7hwv wrote

Reply to comment by DMarquesPT in Activation Lock is a great feature, but needs a rethink as 2020 Macs are turned into landfill by hugglenugget

That’s all well and good, but doesn’t change the fact that these perfectly reusable devices are already accumulating and will continue to accumulate in ever increasing mass quantities at recycling depots across the country where there is no possibility to do the ecologically and socially responsible thing and ensure they get a second life as a usable device for someone who isn’t suited to buy brand new.

Rendering mass quantities of usable equipment as at best a token fraction of its raw input material cannot be allowed to be classified as a sustainable practice. Any sustainability labels or accreditations need to be removed from both Apple and any enterprises that demand destruction of depreciated assets if that is to continue. Cut the greenwashing, call it what it is.

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Willing_Definition71 t1_j6ndcnb wrote

Its not Apples choice, stop pretending it is

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Aperron t1_j6ndvun wrote

Apple created the software mechanism in question, where it didn’t exist before and changed the status quo from one where it was trivial to salvage anything physically intact entering the waste stream for reuse to one where it was in many or most cases impossible.

That’s not even getting into Apples lobbying efforts at the individual state level to implement “sustainable “ ewaste disposal programs where the primary focus was physically destroying any usable hardware as quickly as reasonably possible after being discarded.

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Willing_Definition71 t1_j6ne6rg wrote

Sorry you don't understand corporate security, but no amount of talking yourself in circle will make your view popular

Apple devices are more recyclable than most on the market

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Aperron t1_j6own56 wrote

Recovering some raw materials from a usable item is not recycling. How hard is that to understand. Recycling when conducted properly has a primary goal of salvage and return to use for the original intended purpose of an item. Recovery of raw material is the absolute worst case last resort in recycling.

Shredding up a bunch of 5 year old computers that are the product of a considerable amount of human labor, energy, raw materials and transportation activities when they still have years of serviceable life remaining is not recycling, and it is not sustainable. Full stop.

Any circumstances making that a common outcome need to be challenged and mitigated. Both on the part of manufacturers and the original end users or purchasing institutions.

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DMarquesPT t1_j6nfzc0 wrote

I’ve bought plenty of used Apple devices over the years. That’s how I could afford my first iPhone and iPad as a student.

The only reason they’re accumulating is because the previous owners didn’t do their due diligence before getting rid of the devices. Removing activation lock when wiping a device is not hard.

The worst part of this is misled corporate owners who believe the myth that they have the destroy the computers/drives “for security reasons” when erasing the encryption keys does the job of safeguarding their deleted data on disk.

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