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TheJadedSF t1_j14s7ro wrote

It's too bad there still isn't a real great competitor to Tesla to scoop up buyers. A lot of people want EVs but they're still the best deal in town when you actually look at it. Every other EV is either too expensive, worse range/specs, massive recalls, or not available for years. It's almost like there's a premium just for it not being a Tesla that you pay with other EV brands.

edit: lol love all the angry 'he's right downvotes'

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Intrepid-Dig-1855 t1_j15i6gw wrote

Tesla build quality is awful, customer service is awful. Sure the specs are nice, but there are comparable models for the price range. People aren't downvoting because they are angry you are right, they just think you're wrong?

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maowai t1_j16ekmd wrote

Sorry, but the build quality is at least “acceptable” to the vast, vast majority of people who own them. It’s a Reddit thing to act like they’re at the level of cars coming out of the Soviet Union. The people complaining are people who play with calipers for fun, people who got unlucky with a really bad one, and, as the overwhelming majority, people with no firsthand experience who want to participate in the circlejerk.

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do_you_even_ship_bro t1_j16x7f9 wrote

CNET has labeled the them the most unreliable (out of ~30) for a couple years. That’s terrible for a “high end” brand.

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TheJadedSF t1_j15jkx1 wrote

Name some some comparable models?

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Main_Ad_6147 t1_j15ouzb wrote

I know quite a few ID4 owners and all are happy. I went with Polestar and have loved it and the anticipation for Hyundai's ioniq 6 is very high. Tesla is not the only game in town

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TheJadedSF t1_j15t1h0 wrote

ID4 availability is scarce. It has worse range and the base model is significantly cheaper/less premium than a Model 3 for around the same cost. More comparable to something like a Chevy Bolt.

Polestar isn't bad but worse range and software.

Wouldn't touch Hyundai or Kia, they are cheap junk and years behind.

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Mistyslate t1_j1628bt wrote

Model 3 is premium? That plastic shit with an Android tablet and leaking doors?

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PricklyyDick t1_j16cm7q wrote

Kia is cheap but yet Teslas profit margin is like 15%-20%. Sounds to me like teslas primary business is selling cheap cars as luxury.

But hey if it works it works.

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ktownmenace t1_j15nytm wrote

have you been inside one? its a glorified golf cart with an ipad pro

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BigSwedenMan t1_j16218v wrote

That fucking screen is such bad design. I shouldn't need to dig through menus to turn on my fucking headlights

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TheJadedSF t1_j16bych wrote

So bad that many other makers followed it? And who manually turns their headlights on anymore, it’s called auto mode.

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BigSwedenMan t1_j170cp5 wrote

The fact that others followed is irrelevant. If I eat a shit sandwich from a restaurant, the fact that they also sell one across the street doesn't make it taste any better

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TheJadedSF t1_j15thd2 wrote

Have you? I've been inside one every day for the past 3.5 years. I've owned many vehicles and it's been the most comfortable and reliable. Yeah there are some minor imperfections, like on any vehicle, many which have been sorted in newer year models. What makes a car not a golf cart to you? There's a reason they sell like hot cakes, can't be that ignorant.

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FineAunts t1_j15vh29 wrote

You own one so there's a higher potential for confirmation bias. I'm biased as well after sitting in my coworker's brand new Model Y, it felt cheap for the price. I'm much more interested in the competition at this point.

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TheJadedSF t1_j15vnij wrote

And you don't own one, so there's that bias too. I've owned probably upwards of 8-10 vehicles before my M3. Believe me, I would get rid of it like some old shoes if I didn't like it enough. EVs are great for my purpose anyway. I'd trade for a Rivian R1S but I don't have that kind of money and it's 1-2 years of waiting.

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ktownmenace t1_j15zjix wrote

it isnt worth the price its tagged for. yes it sold like hot cakes and used car market is now flooded with teslas. cant be that ignorant.

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TheJadedSF t1_j16c1ja wrote

And those used ones go like hot cakes too but this sub is so Elon baaaad it doesn’t matter lol

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ktownmenace t1_j16ct1f wrote

they do? i guess everyone forgot to remove their listings then. and stop name dropping elon like you personally know him Lol

ps. i dont even know much about elon and careless about who he is or what he does. i do constantly laugh at elon fanboy friends that spent ridiculous amount of money on dogecoin and down 98% :)

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TheJadedSF t1_j16d7ag wrote

That was literally the only comment that mentioned elon, wtf?

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ktownmenace t1_j16dcti wrote

and totally unnecessary. hes not gonna come running here backing you up

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TheJadedSF t1_j16djka wrote

? Put the crack pipe down buddy

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ktownmenace t1_j16dqtq wrote

not cracked out enough to spend 80k on a golf cart :D

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TheJadedSF t1_j16e0ak wrote

Lol no one is paying 80k for a model 3 what fiction are you talking? You prob can’t afford a Toyota Corolla the way you’re talking. Are you old enough to drive?

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ktownmenace t1_j16e5jo wrote

youre talking all this crap driving a model 3? Lolllll

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ktownmenace t1_j16edgc wrote

funny i actually made money off of tesla stocks and youre just a consumer. know your place bro

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TheJadedSF t1_j16g7kf wrote

Who said I don’t own Tesla stock too? Are you a mind reader little boy?

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Intrepid-Dig-1855 t1_j15m1u2 wrote

Both Ford and Volkswagen IMO

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TheJadedSF t1_j15ofk1 wrote

Those are makes not models.

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Intrepid-Dig-1855 t1_j15zi8a wrote

Tesla is a make not a model. I just followed suit.

Thankfully others have clarified the ones I thought it was obvious I meant. ID3 and the one I've driven which I feel was really decent was the Mustang. But again, just my opinion.

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I_ONLY_PLAY_4C_LOAM t1_j15xd79 wrote

BMW, Audi, and Mercedes are all releasing cars in the Tesla price range.

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TheJadedSF t1_j16bkh3 wrote

… For more money and worse specs and no supercharging network and maybe in 2-3 years realistically

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