bigkoi t1_j1cqv7j wrote
Reply to comment by bkornblith in Google's management has reportedly issued a 'code red' amid the rising popularity of the ChatGPT AI by SnoozeDoggyDog
It's also made a lot of money.
Unclear how chatgpt makes money. It uses data a year+ old which is mostly useless and considered stale data by marketing.
stockist420 t1_j1cv47x wrote
Have you used it? I gave it a bunch of items and said i want cook something with it. It gave me like 6 recipes explained in detail. Haven’t used google in last 4 days. Now I first try it on gpt and then go to google. Shorting google stock for me is a no brainer
bkornblith t1_j1cwn5b wrote
I wouldn’t remotely go as far as shorting google stock….
CardioKillsYourGains t1_j1d3btk wrote
I would. Google has been poorly managed for the last decade.
They create a product, it does well. Then they kill it, only to replace it with two products that do the exact same thing but worse. Then once people start using it again, they rename it no less than three times, before merging the functionality into a different app. Then they just delete that feature for no reason in an update.
The cycle repeats.
bkornblith t1_j1d6zuy wrote
Msft has done way better and Google has made a lot of mistakes, but I wouldn’t count Google out. Betting against a company with almost limitless capital at a moment when capital is very expensive feels like a bad bet at this moment.
Alberiman t1_j1ect1o wrote
The problem with limitless capital is it's a lot like being an emperor with a massive army, it gives you an unrivaled level of confidence that whatever you choose to do is the correct decision because you never feel the consequences in any meaningful way
then one day you wake up and the peasants are inside the castle walls and calling your name
bkornblith t1_j1edca4 wrote
Oh definitely - I just don’t think we’re near that day yet…. Not to say it won’t come
stockist420 t1_j1d6aco wrote
This. Nearly 90 % of their revenue is from advertising, bulk from google search engine. What is the upside anyway in the current high rate environment? What is the downside- plenty
bigkoi t1_j1cve6m wrote
Dude. My wife asks the Google home in the kitchen and gets recipes right in the kitchen.
Give a better example.
Blue-Phoenix23 t1_j1dd2q6 wrote
As an aside, I was really surprised when I got a Google WiFi setup how good the chat function is. I didn't buy it for that purpose and didn't think I would use it but it's pretty neat.
I continue to be dumbfounded how Apple, MS, Amazon etc have basically ceded the smart home space to Google.
bigkoi t1_j1djqse wrote
Agreed. Out of all the tech companies they have the best assistant which was key to the smart home.
However, 4 years ago Google demoed Lambda scheduling an appointment with an unsuspecting human. It was amazing. I have to believe Google has the tech in Lambda when they are ready to make it public in an assistant.
Blue-Phoenix23 t1_j1djtt6 wrote
Very interesting, will have to look that up
mintardent t1_j1eo94d wrote
the google scheduling thing is definitely rolled out. If I want to make a reservation somewhere that I have to call in, the google website it gives me the option to have assistant make the call.
bigkoi t1_j1eod4e wrote
Really? I'll have to look into that.
mintardent t1_j1erh7n wrote
yeah. I don’t think they’re super clear about what’s happening, because I also remember that demo years ago and I didn’t realize it was actually implemented until recently. I think, for example for a restaurant, there’s an option called “reserve a table” or something like that and the assistant makes a call for you. you just have to select a date and time range you’re comfortable with.
paxfuturus t1_j1d5zwn wrote
While it is true that traditional search engines can provide quick and simple answers to cooking queries, ChatGTP offers much more advanced capabilities. For example, ChatGTP can understand and respond to more complex and nuanced requests, such as asking for recipe variations or substitutions. It can also engage in more in-depth conversations, providing detailed explanations and recommendations based on user preferences and dietary restrictions. Additionally, ChatGTP can learn and adapt over time, becoming more efficient and personalized in its responses. These features make ChatGTP a superior choice for those seeking more than just basic recipe information.
P.s. that was AI generated by ChatGTP as a custom response to your criticism. One thing I'll note though is that it is also way better at delivering recipes than Google is. No offense.
bigkoi t1_j1d893o wrote
Understood. The point is it's not difficult for Google to pivot here as Google has the share of endpoints for an assistant. Google obviously has the technology with Lambda.
Here is the difference between Open AI and Google. Open AI can afford to have bad responses and potential racist responses being generated. Google can not. I would imagine Google is busy tuning out all the potential brand damaging responses prior to unleashing it's Lambda capabilities into their assistant.
paxfuturus t1_j1d9r2s wrote
The issue of racism is overstated for OpenAI and understated for Google. Those are absolutely problems that have to be considered, but Google has been doing that for decades and they're still dealing with people getting radicalized on YouTube. If anything its less likely on OpenAI because it's conversationally intuitive.
The big difference is that OpenAI is giving actual AI access to users in a much more tangible way, and also in a way that provides superior a search experience to Google for tons of applications. That's why Google is freaking out, they've been focused on profiteering in search and not service and it really shows. As innovative as Google likes to portray themselves as being, they are an old established player and a monopoly which is why we haven't seen this kind of innovation sooner even though it's been possible for quite some time. Monopolies stifle innovation and competition, that's why we have antitrust laws.
On a philosophical note, OpenAI's focus on research and development of advanced AI technologies sets it apart from Google, which primarily uses AI for financially expedient applications. Google is not a social enterprise. And even though OpenAI isn't non-profit anymore, they are profit capped. All that allows OpenAI to push the boundaries of what is possible with artificial intelligence and contribute to the field in a meaningful way. Being a newer company also allows for greater flexibility and agility in adapting to new developments and technologies in the field.
I use Google Pixel by the way, and have used every Google phone and I have a Chromebook tablet, Nest ecosystem etc.. It's not that I don't appreciate their products.
MacDegger t1_j1dztr3 wrote
I don't you realise that google has been an ai company since more than half a decade at the very least, paid for by adwords.
And comparing the age of OpenAi and Google? Not just irrelevant but ... it is also 7 years old and founded by amongst others Elon Musk.
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