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BriefDownpour t1_j17uxtp wrote

>“Can you focus on Tesla? No improvement, no new models, no localisation of Model X and S …,” said one top-voted comment under the post. “I think you should open a vote on Weibo regarding whether you should step down as Tesla CEO.

The internet really isn't a place fit for billionaires, people are out for blood in here lmao

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mayuzane t1_j18arlq wrote

There is no bodyguard, no secretary to stop us from typing

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YoYoMoMa t1_j19w1pi wrote

And they are so unused to people saying anything real to them.

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OldsDiesel t1_j1aiuyo wrote

Its why I've been banned from Twitter twice, Reddit once, and temporary suspended from both Facebook and Instagram more than I can count.

I fucking hate billionaires, and I want them to know they shouldn't exist. Whether that be peaceful or violent, I don't care.

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swistak84 t1_j18dli6 wrote

>The internet really isn't a place fit for billionaires

It used to be for a while. For years any post criticising Musk would get downvoted to oblivion. Anyone questioning Tesla valuation would get shouted over ("Tesla is a tech company!" "It's a growth stock!"). People were honestly arguing that Hyperloop is something that can be realistically built (Hell. Another billionaire-but-imbecile even spent a lots of his money to try to build one).

Perception is just catching up to reality.

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icantfindanametwice t1_j18sx8b wrote

To be fair, Elon also asked his flight attendant for a handjob, and said she’d get a horse in return.

I mean, how out of touch do you have to be to not know a pony was the superior gift, which would have clenched the handy, and saved him a cool quarter million?

Then there’s the whole flying to Epstein’s Island ten times on the Lolita Express.

All that money, and he just wants to copy Woody Allen - or his dad, and bang his stepdaughter.

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namechecksout35 t1_j1acy9l wrote

To be fairer, I'd give a handy for used Toyota Corolla. No frame damage <125k miles.

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ScenicAndrew t1_j1942lh wrote

I was definitely one to defend the person over their message, but I'm pretty happy to have learned. As long as it's just words in the void of the internet; Better to learn and regret than to have been nasty about it without ever changing.

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Lostation t1_j1arbh6 wrote

Omg I first read your post as massage instead of message.after reading the post about willing to give a handy for a car. I made myself laugh today

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ScenicAndrew t1_j1atddx wrote

I had real problems separating Elon from that massage he gave me, too.

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maxoakland t1_j19txpd wrote

What do you think made you that type of person at the time and what made you learn?

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ScenicAndrew t1_j1a5wol wrote

Was just younger. Was not a muskrat but definitely felt like if I liked something he did (or more appropriately, something his PR team said he did) he must not be all bad. Learned by learning he and others were just awful.

Honestly the bigger issue for me was with Gates. Kinda hard to see past the foundation, environmentalism, etc. At the end of the day can't just separate Microsoft's shitty behavior from him.

If you don't learn to separate the person from their actions they really sneak up on ya. Patagonia guy is the recent example. Does SOME good, sure, but he's just setting his wealth in stone.

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SquatchWithNoHeroes t1_j19bcef wrote

Hyperloop CAN be realistically built.

But not with our current technology.

First we need to get regular maglevs on working order and then we can begin thinking on vaccum sealing them.

And then it probably will not make a difference, Hell, the amount of concrete needed may very well offset the energy consumption. Nevermind the issue of a single guy with a drill being able to stop the whole line (and maybe cause a big incident if a train happens to just be going through.)

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swistak84 t1_j19iv6a wrote

>Hyperloop CAN be realistically built.
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>But not with our current technology.

I mean technically they can be built. But never. And I mean never they would be viable or realistic.

To see why just look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz95_VvTxZM one guy with a hammer could trigger this and destroy killometers of tracks.

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SquatchWithNoHeroes t1_j1a22mn wrote

Obviously, the containment would be built out of concrete.

Otherwise it would be impossible, it would collapse on itself by stress alone rather quickly.

Anyway, my point is that Hyperloop is like wanting to make the concorde without making the 707 first.

And it may very well like the concorde end up being not practical.

Frankly, I don't see the need to be faster than 400km/h . That's what videoconferences are for

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swistak84 t1_j1ah065 wrote

Obviously? Because none of the efforts or whitepaper tried that ...

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SquatchWithNoHeroes t1_j1aj5n9 wrote

Nobody is suggesting you build it with the materials of a thin pressure vessel .

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swistak84 t1_j1ak29s wrote

Literally what Musk's whitepaper suggested.

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SquatchWithNoHeroes t1_j1aki7g wrote

I'm pretty sure that even that whitepaper doesn't suggest something that is meant to resist inward pressure instead of outward pressure

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tickle_mittens t1_j19ddly wrote

The only way Teslas valuation made sense is if their solar and power storage technology was so good, and their lead s insurmountable, that they were going to replace Exxon.

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YawnTractor_1756 t1_j19d70i wrote

>Perception is just catching up to reality.

You conveniently "forget" that before 2018 things were other way around. People were shitting on Musk since the very start, for over a decade, saying BEV are unviable, unsellable etc, "rational critiques" said if rockets could land NASA would do it long time ago, etc. etc, but Tesla and SpaceX kept delivering.

So no what you call "reality" is not always right. And it's not reality, it's just another perception.

Musk just changed. And with him his companies are no longer the same.

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swistak84 t1_j19ponc wrote

I remember EV car FUD mate, but plenty of "Rational critiques" were very much spot on. In 2022 we still don't have:

  1. FSD (only beta)
  2. Robotaxis
  3. Hyperloop (and never will)
  4. "Tech company" - It's funny that no one is even trying to argue this any-more.
  5. "Energy company" - SolarCity is on coninous downwards path, solar tiles are insignificant and they are reselling chinese panels
  6. Loops (regular kind, made by boring company). Even Vegas Loop is serviced by taxi drivers
  7. Cybertruck.

The only things they actually delivered on were the "realistic" ones which is to produce and expensive EV Car & SUV.

I called it then that Tesla will become like Mazda small independent carmaker making quirky interesting cars or becomes bankrupt.

They exceeded expectations producing two times more cars then Mazda at his point and I'm sure that they will continue to grow, but the dreams of challenging Toyota are over (but no chance of suddenly going bankrupt either I think).

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YawnTractor_1756 t1_j19qphi wrote

If you shoot from a shotgun many times you eventually hit something and then you can claim that's where you aimed.

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RNBAModBrainTumor t1_j18thry wrote

bro the flame from the chinese League of Legends community is on another level. That is honestly super tame, but also back handed as fuck as and so funny. Like Muskrat actually thought weibo of all places was going to be supportive?

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Weird-Engineer t1_j18yzvl wrote

After seeing him run Twitter THEY WANT HIM BACK AT TESLA?! In what world do they think Musk possesses the leadership skills or the public trust to run Tesla. He ran an unrelated company so poorly it destroyed Tesla. Maybe if he goes back to tesla full time we can see the stock drop to 25$ a share! Or maybe he will just lock me out of my car like he did my Twitter for making fun of him.

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Development-Alive t1_j1ap6et wrote

Nah. Tesla is missing its pitchman. The investors need someone who can make vapid promises that will rarely come to fruition all to pump up the stock and convince consumers to give Tesla interest-free loans.

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Berova t1_j1b7b99 wrote

Tesla Board of Directors MIA

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r0b0tsrfun t1_j19fbn2 wrote

As they should be, billionaires have no place in a functioning society lol. I don’t understand why we as a society with limited resources, idolize those that horde them. It’s crazy that we have a few individuals who go get to play judge, jury, and executioner with our finite resources.

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SidewaysFancyPrance t1_j1bg6j1 wrote

This is the wrong time to be absolutely oblivious to public sentiment, and unable to read the room. The economic pressure is hitting everyone, and he's whining and complaining the loudest. Smart billionaires STFU during downturns and don't criticize/aggravate/condescend their customers and labor force. They lay low and don't draw attention to how their lifestyles don't change one bit.

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kveggie1 t1_j19erjm wrote

and rightfully so. Leon should stop playing/wasting his billions on Twitter and make Tesla a success... (oh, he does not have the capability.... space karen.

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TheKert t1_j1a9rze wrote

Now we need to make the offline world equally unfit for them.

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I_like_big_bugss t1_j1b7hzz wrote

Hahaha epic.

His mum shouldn’t have convinced him he’s so special (their relationship is creepy) and he wouldn’t be having to go through this public humiliation. But if you surround yourself with sycophants….

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