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Chief_Beef_ATL t1_iy4eu0o wrote

Reply to comment by KanadainKanada in Encouraging self-harm to be criminalised in Online Safety Bill by speckz

It was always around and more severe in the past? In the 80's assholes you've never met could harass you anonymously and en mass? Pre-internet, only assholes from your area could be assholes to you IRL. Sorry but your comment doesn't hold water.

And again, the article isnt about criminalizing self harm. Youre right that self harm isnt illegal. It's illegal to tell someone to kill someone. It should be illegal to encourage someone to kill themselves as well. You dont have to criminalize self harm to make this happen.

And if you are confused about the definition of self harm, just look it up.

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KanadainKanada t1_iy4tlnp wrote

Additionally - suicide had and still has a strong stigma. Because people in the past fucking knew that it was a failure of parents, teachers and community. Depending on religion it was a mortal sin. Or still is even. That totally fudges the numbers. Happy little accidents to bury the dead kids instead of you know... outside the graveyard due to sin.

You lack to see how brutal the past generations were. Read up on black (poisonous) pedagogy. And even in media - behavior that was common in schools. Sure it was less "words" and more actual sticks and stones - but hey, it is of course totally impossible to evade anonymous online terror by going anonymous yourself then evade the gang living in the same village than you.

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KanadainKanada t1_iy4s1sh wrote

> It's illegal to tell someone to kill someone.

Wrong. It is illegal to incite someone to commit a crime.

Is it a crime to commit suicide? No. So, is inciting someone to suicide a crime? Of course not. At least as long as we talk about sane adults. As soon as you step into people that aren't legally competent, need a guardian etc. that's something else.

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Chief_Beef_ATL t1_iy580s9 wrote

People that need a guardian is something else? Like young people aka children? Thankfully no young children use the internet. Young people are always kind and thoughtful and never do or say bad things, right? They are immune from depression as well as the effects of bullying. And they certainly have never committed suicide as a result of online bullying. Harrassment until someone kills themselves is still harassment, adult or no.

So murder for hire is legal in your book? Go kill them is fine to say? But INCITING someone, oh that's different. That's a nay-no.

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KanadainKanada t1_iy99sk5 wrote

> Thankfully no young children use the internet.

Too bad there is no one, like literally no one assigned as the guardian of that person that I don't know regularly checks on the shit that child does. I mean - no one is checking the shit you post online, right?

You do not understand language, do you? Incitement to commit a crime is illegal. Incitement to go fuck yourself is not a crime since fucking yourself is not illegal. You get it now?

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