chmilz t1_iy4cn85 wrote
Reply to comment by vivanetx in 'Landmark achievement': Rolls-Royce and easyJet hail successful hydrogen jet engine test by Wagamaga
And the immediate response is that batteries are not viable in their current state. As is hydrogen. And that response goes on to talk about how theoretical future hydrogen technology will make it viable, while ignoring the same theoretical battery technology.
With one major caveat: hydrogen is a known quantity - the energy density cannot change, it will never get better than what it is now. We're increasing battery storage density while reducing weight and other challenges constantly. Over time, I see no scenario where hydrogen beats battery. We currently have no theoretical limit to what we can achieve with batteries. We can't extract more energy out of liquid hydrogen than we do now.
Spudgunhimself t1_iy51i17 wrote
You absolutely have a limit on what you can store with batteries. That limit is 1 electron per lithium atom. Even if you used pure lithium metal as your electrode, that is still three times as heavy as hydrogen per electron.
chmilz t1_iy52jss wrote
We're limited to lithium?
FalconX88 t1_iy556ch wrote
I mean beryllium would be slightly better, but everything is worse than hydrogen. Hydrogen has the highest (useable) electron to weight ratio.
Spudgunhimself t1_iy5sg4c wrote
Well the only lighter reactive element than lithium is hydrogen, so at that point you'd just be making a hydrogen fuel cell 😂
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