Choice_Marzipan5322 t1_ixqt222 wrote
What gas, coal, nuclear or diesel fuel will power these electric charging stations requiring as much power as a small town should be the question? Think hard folks
The_Countess t1_ixqv8fj wrote
The ones that can be converted far more efficiency into electricity then a ICE car can convert them into motion?
And are substituted by renewable energy when available?
Choice_Marzipan5322 t1_ixqzumw wrote
Check the current numbers
The_Countess t1_ixrq08d wrote
No matter the fuel, a electric car will always be able to go more miles on the same amount of initial fuel. power plants are just much more efficient then a gas powered ICE car could ever hope to be.
So which numbers are you talking about?
Canadian_Infidel t1_ixs3u0c wrote
You lose half of the energy between the power plant and the end user in the electrical grid. You are right the massive turbines are more efficient, though. But it is roughly a wash. Maybe 20% better at most in favorable conditions.
The_Countess t1_ixw9yvx wrote
>You lose half of the energy between the power plant and the end user in the electrical grid.
Who told you these figure... and maybe more importantly why on earth did you believe them? They are off by a whole order of magnitude.
>In more developed countries, losses were lower: While the United States experienced 6% losses in 2016, 5% was reported for Germany and Singapore reached 2%.
I've also looked at other sources and between 5 to 6% is the consensus for the US.
And before we were just talking tank-to-wheel efficiency for ICE.
If we're going to take a broader view then we'll need to include the cost to refine the oil into gasoline. That's another 15-20% of the energy gone before it even gets to your tank. And we haven't even added in the energy costs of distributing the fuel.
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