man_gomer_lot t1_ixwys51 wrote
Reply to comment by MasterpieceBrave420 in Europe wants to harness the power of the sun... from space/The ESA wants to collect solar energy from the cosmos to help the continent meet climate targets by Sorin61
Miss me with that ignorant bullshit.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/13/meat-greenhouses-gases-food-production-study
MasterpieceBrave420 t1_ixx00kn wrote
That has nothing to do with what I said. Which was "Veganism has nothing to do with environmental sustainability. Palm oil is vegan. Pleather is vegan."
It's about feeling morally superior.
man_gomer_lot t1_ixx16ay wrote
This is you right now: " There are examples of unsustainable practices that qualify as vegan, therefore the meat industry and their influence on federal policy is as harmless to the environment as any alternative." Sounds a lot like the conclusions we reach on the policy level in regards to fossil fuels vs. nuclear or any alternative.
MasterpieceBrave420 t1_ixxbny1 wrote
Well if veganism was about sustainability wouldn't it be included in the entire ethos? it's not though. It's only about animals. I didn't make the rules, they did. You can eat animals sustainably and you can not eat animals and still use unsustainable practices. Don't be mad at me because your ideology is inconsistent with itself.
man_gomer_lot t1_ixyn0ex wrote
This isn't actually about veganism, it's about the meat mega industry, the influence it has on shaping public opinion, and how that is parallel to the way big oil operates in regards to threats to their respective market caps.
MasterpieceBrave420 t1_iy0j1tw wrote
Your problem seems to be with capitalism. Trying to convince me capitalism is bad is just preaching to the choir.
It's like how socialism has nothing to do with democracy because one is an economic system and the other is political. You can be a democratic socialist or a Fascist socialist.
You're the one who brought up veganism in regards to environmentalism in the first place. I just pointed out the truth that environmentalism has no standing on weather or not something is vegan. Take it up with PETA or the Vice Admiral Vegan or whoever is in charge of that shit if you have a problem with that.
man_gomer_lot t1_iy0r8ey wrote
You don't understand where I'm coming from because apparently it's like me trying to talk about water to a fish. It might be easier to wrap your head around by looking at the tobacco industry and where we would be if we let them write the rules on how much influence they can have. We're doing this right now, but with fossil fuels and meat instead of cigarettes and asbestos.
MasterpieceBrave420 t1_iy0sbs4 wrote
I understand exactly where you're coming from. You're upset that being vegan doesn't automatically give you a free pass to being environmentally conscious and you want to have all the moral superiorities. You collect them like Pokémon.
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