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bagonmaster t1_iyb4x3e wrote

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The vast majority were not convicted by a jury either because they were railroaded into a deal, they had a bad lawyer, or they just didn’t know their rights. There is no due process for the poor

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Itchy_Focus_4500 t1_iybe8n2 wrote

And, it’s the same for Everyone.

Yup, exceptions happen. Everyone gets a lawyer, if they want. If you don’t wanna pay, don’t play.

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bagonmaster t1_iybk05u wrote

You’ve definitely never interacted with the legal system if you think it’s easy to get a public defender

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Itchy_Focus_4500 t1_iybkhtg wrote

I have, indeed, used the Public Defender. In another life.

It’s free. Not What, When or How YOU want it. If you broke the LAW, then you’re responsible for it. It’s free for a reason.

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bagonmaster t1_iybkzf5 wrote

I seriously doubt that unless it was like 40 years ago. There are restrictions on what types of crimes are entitled to a public defender, you have to earn under the federal poverty line in order to qualify for one, and there still aren’t enough defenders for everyone who is eligible.

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Itchy_Focus_4500 t1_iybn9af wrote

Well random internet stranger, I just wanted you to know that I, in fact, do not care what you believe. I lived it. Different crime, different criteria. Bottom line, if you have to wait for a lawyer prior to the trial, then it’s worth pointing out, you get what you’re paying for. You may not be tried without legal representation or advice. As I said, not everyone gets what they want, when they want it or how it is done. Everyone, has the same Rights.

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bagonmaster t1_iybosqo wrote

Everyone doesn’t have the same rights, that’s the whole point. We essentially have 2 separate justice systems, you have 100% never interacted with it in any way especially not as someone who needed a public defender

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Itchy_Focus_4500 t1_iybq2mi wrote

Look, I told you that it’s happened to me, more than once.

Just because YOU SAY something, doesn’t mean it is true. I am not gonna explain anything else to you, as you tell me that I’m wrong. Just because you watched an episode of Chicago PD & know someone who once worked in a bodega, didn’t actually make you an expert. Take your younger self outside and, after you pick up your double soy latte and scone, actually make it your daily routine to get your own life. Oh, and fuck off.

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Whitewing424 t1_iybtuxu wrote

So you want to defend the idea that the rich should be more able to avoid penalties from the justice system by arguing that wealth should be able to buy you better defense, and the best defenders should be reserved for the wealthiest clients. It's almost like the rich live by a totally different set of rules than the rest of us.

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Itchy_Focus_4500 t1_iybv13o wrote

You are Never gonna change my mind, my life (much more than you) experiences and actions and achievements.

You can sit in grandma’s basement and pontificate about shit You know nothing about.

Good Day.

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