Submitted by Brook030 t3_z42stm in technology
Comments
Hero_Charlatan t1_ixozws4 wrote
Whoa whoa whoa hold up. According to Reddit only Tesla has vehicle recalls?
Big-Beat_Manifesto_ t1_ixp0x47 wrote
Why would Elon musk do this?
HeyPierreComeOutHere t1_ixp17lo wrote
Ford Bronco owners have been on a ride ever since they bought their vehicle lmao
WexfordHo t1_ixp1vlt wrote
Yeah that’s the sort of recall that makes you stop and go, “Goddamn.”
AyBruhBee t1_ixp22l0 wrote
Atleast their vehicle is worth 4x its msrp lmao thats one expensive bomb
pirate_in_the_puddin t1_ixp24ec wrote
“Maybe if I defend Elon on Reddit, he will let me suck his dick someday”
bigsbyBiggs t1_ixp39ri wrote
You're literally commenting this on a reddit post not about Tesla recalls. Try again?
1015267 t1_ixp3elu wrote
Maybe if I suck big oils dick Twitter will recognize me as the hero I am putting down the EV leader
EmperorsarusRex t1_ixp3wt2 wrote
You know what it stands for right? Fix It Again Tony
aloochaatfetish t1_ixp3xe8 wrote
A times B times C equals X
Apparently X is more than the cost of the recall
wizlo25 t1_ixp45cf wrote
That’s a fiat dale
J4rndt t1_ixp46cu wrote
Rusty Shackleford would’ve never let this happen.
InvalidUserNemo t1_ixp47ec wrote
Irony is you making this comment while we can see your comment history defending the guy so many times in the past week alone.
Imaginary_Roof_5381 t1_ixp4es7 wrote
Found On the Road Dead
oldbastardbob t1_ixp4gnv wrote
We'll have "unexploded Bronco" puns just like the "unexploded Pinto" puns back in the last century.
1015267 t1_ixp4jth wrote
Oh cool? Do my biases make my statements unfactual?
Also yeee Teslas are dope and over hated
InvalidUserNemo t1_ixp4p4b wrote
Yes, actually. Reread that comment for a second time and explain to me the part where they are “sucking big oils dick” by being critical of Musk Stans.
Ryan1869 t1_ixp53d6 wrote
Flip Over Replace Driver
MorticianMan82 t1_ixp571x wrote
Fix Or Repair Daily
bordercolliesforlife t1_ixp5802 wrote
Ford = found on rubbish dump.
GotAHandyAtAMC t1_ixp5io1 wrote
Ford can’t just send out a software update?
hammerra10 t1_ixp5kpj wrote
This was the first thing that went into my head
GotAHandyAtAMC t1_ixp5l9t wrote
Ford can’t fix it with a software update?
WhiteIvers0n t1_ixp5ucj wrote
I tell you what!
MitchTheSlitch t1_ixp6a4c wrote
In Germany they say: Fehler In Allen Teilen (fault in all parts)
Hero_Charlatan t1_ixp6bfs wrote
Nope! They have to go into the shop lol
[deleted] t1_ixp6bpv wrote
santa_cruz_shredder t1_ixp6cd5 wrote
Fixed with an over the air update, not news... Wait this isn't a bullshit article about a Tesla "recall"?
Hero_Charlatan t1_ixp6f2d wrote
Why do millennials love the word “literally”
1015267 t1_ixp6hol wrote
The part where Ford is recalled over half a million vehicles due to fire risks and losing money on every EV they sell. Yet this is the only article about it. And pointing that out somehow makes you a Musk stan lol
ReachPatriots t1_ixp6ld3 wrote
Found On Roadside Dead
DangoQueenFerris t1_ixp6n24 wrote
Which manufacturer did you say you worked for again?
Legosmiles t1_ixp6w9r wrote
Have we forgotten that the Explorer was for a time the Exploder in the 90s?
InvalidUserNemo t1_ixp6x50 wrote
You can’t possibly be struggling with this. Pirates comment makes no claims about the article, EVs or Ford’s abilities to repair them. You made the claim that anything critical of Musk or his Stans means they’re anti-EV and pro Big Oil. You pulled that outta nowhere and that is the comment I’m trying to say is not factual based on the comment you replied to for this thread.
Generated_by_a_tool t1_ixp732l wrote
A major one.
dejus t1_ixp74s1 wrote
I’m literally not a millennial and I literally love the word
llIicit t1_ixp77th wrote
It took Tesla 17 years before they turned a profit. To this day they still lose money on every car they sell.
The only reason the are profitable is because they sell emissions credits. But once other manufacturers (like ford) figure out how to make EV’s like they do ICE’s, they will probably be back to where they were before.
Edit: they blocked me lmao
bigsbyBiggs t1_ixp7cue wrote
I don't know why they do. I'll ask the next time I'm talking to one.
1015267 t1_ixp7u1h wrote
Lol suure bud.
-
Tesla has been turning massive profits for multiple years
-
that’s already a moved goal post. The last decade has been “just wait until legacy manufacturers enter the market”. But they can’t even turn a profit on EVs. Let’s also just go ahead and ignore that Tesla is one of the primary reasons battery prices have even been driven low enough for the legacy manufacturers to enter the market.
I’m done arguing with you since you don’t even posses a basic grasp of the EV market
1015267 t1_ixp7z7z wrote
No you made the claim that pointing out the hypocrisy was musk staning. When pointing out basic facts offends you so much your bias to traditional oil becomes obvious.
pururinarmad t1_ixp82hd wrote
Found On Road Dead
iamkeerock t1_ixp8gtd wrote
Wrong Bronco, this is the Bronco Sport, which is a redressed Ford Escape capitalizing on the Ranger based bigger Bronco’s popularity.
[deleted] t1_ixp8kwr wrote
[removed]
[deleted] t1_ixp8mce wrote
[deleted]
Calm-Zombie2678 t1_ixp8moj wrote
Fucked on race day
ThisisthewayLA t1_ixp8r7n wrote
Freaking only roll downhill
pimpbot666 t1_ixp96r0 wrote
That's the 1.5 liter 3 cylinder engines. Long story short, cracked fuel injector leaks, make vapors that can ignite.
[deleted] t1_ixp9etv wrote
[deleted]
asphaltaddict33 t1_ixpa8rk wrote
The bronco sport is recalled, not the bronco. Reading the article helps
chzygorditacrnch t1_ixpaipq wrote
I had an ex that had an explorer and it caught on fire while it was turned off and parked
Ok_Anywhere_1791 t1_ixpali5 wrote
So not a bronco, but yet... a bronco.
Doctor_Bubbles t1_ixpapj4 wrote
Article says Bronco Sport, the crazy markups and resells are on the Bronco.
HolyAndOblivious t1_ixpaq39 wrote
15 years ago I used to work for GM. Certain models would catch fire after hard braking because it would cause the fluids to escape the engine.
Turns out it was not just hard breaking and some houses caught on fire.
Christhephotographer t1_ixpawwv wrote
America's No.2 automaker.
DirtyPolecat t1_ixpbgsc wrote
Ford is an American brand. We don't say "rubbish".
The correct term is "Found On Road Dead" or "Fix Or Repair Daily".
[deleted] t1_ixpbqh4 wrote
[removed]
afishda t1_ixpbrq6 wrote
Pos made by cheap foreign labor in a different country, that could care less about the quality of the foreign cars they are making for mear pesos on the dollar as pay.
That is the current bronco in a nutshell corporate watering down.
pirate_in_the_puddin t1_ixpbtxn wrote
You’re an absolute embarrassment of a human being. There is literally no reason to put as much effort as you have, into defending Elon fuckin Musk of all people.
KonigSteve t1_ixpc32g wrote
I mean they're completely different vehicles on different chassis etc
Ok_Anywhere_1791 t1_ixpcnh1 wrote
Then maybe Ford shouldn't have called them both bronco
nattyd t1_ixpcsgk wrote
ICE cars are 60x more likely to catch fires than EVs, which is the complete opposite of public perception:
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a38225037/how-much-you-should-worry-about-ev-fires/
yellowteabag t1_ixpd7sz wrote
the bronco sport is not a "sport" trim of the bronco. they really are completely different vehicles.
the bronco sport is a family oriented unibody SUV with a tiny 3-cylinder 1.5L engine and the bronco is an off-terrain body-on-frame vehicle with a much larger engine.
Ok_Anywhere_1791 t1_ixpdd4h wrote
So it's a stupid name then?
yellowteabag t1_ixpdlu6 wrote
it is absolutely a stupid naming scheme
Ok_Anywhere_1791 t1_ixpdpqb wrote
I agree with that
redquailer t1_ixpdvrj wrote
Are those even really Broncos?? /s
possibly_oblivious t1_ixpe06a wrote
His Name Is Robert Paulson
notcaffeinefree t1_ixpecrz wrote
The Bronco Sport (what's recalled) is not at all the same as the Bronco (not recalled). The Sport is built off the Escape chassis while the actual Bronco uses a ladder frame construction.
They are literally two entirely different vehicles that happen to share the same name.
TheCrimsonDagger t1_ixpfykh wrote
Yeah recalls only happen when the projected cost of lawsuits is more than the cost of the recall.
Southpaw73 t1_ixph4fk wrote
I wonder if it’ll be an OTA
happyscrappy t1_ixpirod wrote
> an off-terrain body-on-frame vehicle with a much larger engine.
Somewhat larger. 2.3L base. 2.7L available. And in the Bronco Sport: 1.5L, 2.0L available.
Really hard to tear down people on here for a stupid thing Ford did.
Naming the Bronco Sport that was designed to create a confusion (association) with the other Bronco. Ford is reaping what they sowed.
[deleted] t1_ixpjjto wrote
Black_Moons t1_ixpkddm wrote
Dammit Jim, its an INTERNAL combustion engine. How many times do I have to tell you to keep the combustion INTERNAL!?
SeparateAd5914 t1_ixpmwga wrote
Now you listen to me you piece of shit. Do you know this guy? Why speak to him like that? Some ppl actually don’t give a fuck about musk but if every time someone defends of his company you shits bring him up then Ofcourse it will seem like people are defending him. You are extremely obsessed.
hcwhitewolf t1_ixpn77q wrote
That may be true, but you have some semblance of a chance to put out an engine fire with a fire extinguisher. Aint nothing stopping a battery fire and the whole vehicle will be fully involved in like 20 seconds.
You get in a serious wreck in an EV where the battery is compromised and you are trapped, you are just 100% fucked.
Edit: EV simps out hard today. Battery fires are very aggressive and fire departments have been struggling to extinguish them with full equipment. You can't deny that there is an inherent danger to EV battery fires. You can simp all you want for them, but it's a challenge that will need to be overcome with more and more EVs on the road.
londons_explorer t1_ixpnmnb wrote
Is this fixed with a software update like Tesla?
Or will 634,000 people have to take the day off work to take their car to a garage?
[deleted] t1_ixpnx9l wrote
[deleted]
Sentryion t1_ixpp2bo wrote
They have to take their car to a garage. They will probably get a loaner but since there’s so many recall they will probably get Uber credits
LiliNotACult t1_ixpphbr wrote
And that kids is why I only like Honda & Toyota. I don't give a fuck if something is American made or not. I care if it was engineered well and won't break down on me.
Sven_Grammerstorf_ t1_ixppneh wrote
It’s not the real bronco though
robbak t1_ixpwv2j wrote
That's mostly what they are doing - a software update to throw a code and force the car into limp-home mode when it detects a fuel leak. They are also adding drain pipe to direct leaking fuel away from likely ignition sources.
They are not replacing the dodgy fuel injectors that are the cause of the problem.
robbak t1_ixpx3ry wrote
> update vehicle software to detect whether a fuel injector is cracked and provide a dashboard message to alert drivers.
> "If a pressure drop in the fuel rail is detected, engine power will automatically be reduced to minimize any risk, while also allowing customers to drive to a safe location and stop the vehicle and arrange for service," Ford added.
> Dealers will also install a tube draining fuel from the cylinder head and away from hot surfaces and check for excessive fuel odor near the top of the engine.
So, forcing the vehicle into limp-home mode if it detects a leak, and adding a pipe. Replacing the dodgy fuel injectors isn't part of the recall.
Joejoecornrow t1_ixpy6s5 wrote
Remember the vw “ thing “. If it was rear ended it would burst into flame more often than not.
Richardham90 t1_ixq00dq wrote
Shocker Ford has to recall something, that’s why it’s American
[deleted] t1_ixq15w2 wrote
[removed]
MrPloppyHead t1_ixq17zu wrote
these people just forgot to pay for their "vehicle don't catch fire" subscription.
xxFrenchToastxx t1_ixq3lf0 wrote
Ford marketing team skipped over the 80's history lesson. It was a shitty naming scheme then, still shitty now.
JoeFortitude t1_ixq3sfa wrote
Why isn't the Bronco Sport the Bronco II?!? Because I can't help but to call it that! The Sport should be a package on the Bronco, not the name. The Bronco II was just sitting there, waiting to be revived, but NOOOOOOO, Ford marketing wanted to do a shit job with naming.
huffler823 t1_ixq40p8 wrote
They should've named it Bronco II
EdwardScissorHands11 t1_ixq423t wrote
I'm not all that huge of a guy and neither Tacoma or Ridgeline were even remotely comfortable. This is the only reason I have a Ford and I'm not delighted about it... But it's been great for 10k miles so far.
Mission_Taste7848 t1_ixq5kc9 wrote
Fix
Ot
Rgain
Dony
pirate_in_the_puddin t1_ixq6neb wrote
This gave me quite the laugh.
processedmeat t1_ixq6xie wrote
Seems we are getting a new recall monthly.
heckdditor t1_ixq7ebu wrote
Payed Wall - FUCK YOU!
Ill-Poet-3298 t1_ixq83j5 wrote
How many EV battery fires have there been?
Ill-Poet-3298 t1_ixq85vz wrote
> They are not replacing the dodgy fuel injectors that are the cause of the problem.
That seems... short sighted.
drunkfoowl t1_ixq9dqw wrote
Ford had no loaners when I took my car in.
[deleted] t1_ixqa5l0 wrote
[deleted]
madmanmike3 t1_ixqax0a wrote
madmanmike3 t1_ixqbbsu wrote
I bought a 2018 Accord in 2021. It had 3 recalls BEFORE I bought it. None of them were near as critical as this.
jetpack_hypersomniac t1_ixqbfnf wrote
Man, but Things sure do look super cool to me, aesthetically speaking.
stusic t1_ixqc5lp wrote
Well, they will reduce engine output after the fix...
vid_icarus t1_ixqcas1 wrote
My last car was a ford explorer and the amount of recalls on it were really staggering compared to any other car I’d owned before or since. I really loved driving that thing but the amount of problems it had, and the brand continues to have, will probably prevent me from ever driving a cord again.
Back_In_Cork t1_ixqcmyf wrote
[deleted] t1_ixqezst wrote
[deleted]
[deleted] t1_ixqf2pr wrote
[deleted]
KonigSteve t1_ixqfcq8 wrote
I agree, but that doesn't change that people reading the article would've helped.
ageofthegreat t1_ixqffz5 wrote
Ro
Roh
Rhaggy
Andreomgangen t1_ixqfnl4 wrote
Was sure it would be battery related when I saw the headline, is it wrong to say I am pleasantly surprised.
mkultra50000 t1_ixqixla wrote
This must be Elon Musks fault.
[deleted] t1_ixqkfw8 wrote
[removed]
Garglygook t1_ixqkobz wrote
>Remember the vw “ thing “. If it was rear ended it would burst into flame more often than not.
So did the Ford Pinto. It came out in a lawsuit that the bean counters at Ford said to recall it would cost more than just dealing with the lawsuits which is why it took so long to get them off the road or fixed. I remember that now every time they finally issue a recall.
[deleted] t1_ixqksc0 wrote
[removed]
[deleted] t1_ixql4dx wrote
[removed]
[deleted] t1_ixqliyy wrote
[removed]
HolyCarbohydrates t1_ixqmlb7 wrote
I got one:
“omlete du fomroge”
[deleted] t1_ixqn1fs wrote
[deleted]
cyrusm t1_ixqnzza wrote
They made a reference to that in some family comedy I watched with my kids the other day. I think it was the movie Rat Race? Had to stop and explain the joke, because from their perspective a car just exploded for no reason, with no context.
cyrusm t1_ixqo3d5 wrote
Make sure you don't light up them fire-stones with your exploder
Alershka t1_ixqpo32 wrote
Mustang Mach E enters the chat
kinkykusco t1_ixqpt13 wrote
>Dealers will also install a tube draining fuel from the cylinder head and away from hot surfaces and check for excessive fuel odor near the top of the engine.
Super impressive that Ford can install tubing thru an OTA update.
Nonbinary_Tea t1_ixqrhwu wrote
Fuck. That's me. Anyone know how recalls work ?
droid6 t1_ixqthv4 wrote
still dreaming of me
[deleted] t1_ixqubc9 wrote
[removed]
SnooGuavas738 t1_ixr06f6 wrote
Found On Road Dead
curiosgreg t1_ixr31bp wrote
Former Automotive engineer. This just isn’t true. Recalls are triggered by the government in many cases. I once had my personal car’s sun visor recalled because when any fault is present in over X amount of vehicles it triggers a mandatory recall. Similarly, they must recall anything overtly dangerous if im recalling my experience with Fiat-Chrysler’s law department correctly.
Ps. This system was also Tesla’s saving grace because they were so low volume for so long. Now, not so much.
LazloHollifeld t1_ixr4kfd wrote
The part I liked was they said there was no need for customers to stop driving them or parking them indoors. The risk for fire after the vehicle had been turned off is minimal, there has only been 15 fires and 3 had included secondary damage to structures.
Twenty percent chance of a structure fire seems a little more than minimal.
[deleted] t1_ixr4oy8 wrote
[deleted]
d4nigirl84 t1_ixrah4g wrote
So weird. I read this post after reading another about Fight Club…
elijahhhhhh t1_ixrixzg wrote
ICE engines have also been commonplace for like 100 years give or take. EVs are just starting to get real traction. Whole "Devil you know" type deal. I've been guilty of putting more money in a shit box car than it's even worth because I know what's wrong with it and can live with those problems. With a new (to me) shit box, I don't know all the problems and quirks.
Joejoecornrow t1_ixs5wzg wrote
Remember yougo . Wtf
Joejoecornrow t1_ixs5yhi wrote
Feeling Like a member berry
Bensemus t1_ixs7k0b wrote
They are making fun of /r/technology. This sub loves Tesla recall posts and they are reposted a bunch.
deltadovertime t1_ixsivra wrote
People were shitting on Tesla’s recall neglecting to mention a software fix was only required. Don’t think you will fix this with a software update.
gummiiiiiiiii t1_ixsq9s2 wrote
The Ford Pinto would beg to differ.
Relative_Concern_568 t1_ixsre6w wrote
Go to the dealer, drop the car off and they fix it for free. I’d certainly make an appointment and if you’re lucky they’ll have a loaner for you. It’s pretty easy and I can’t think of a single new car that I’ve had in the last 10-15 years that hasn’t had a least one recall of some sort. No biggie but, yeah, it’s annoying.
simple_mech t1_ixsrvk7 wrote
In the car or in the house?
Relative_Concern_568 t1_ixssbq5 wrote
Ford sold 91,903 Bronco Sport in 2022. (From Jan - Oct 2022). Ford sold 26,965 Bronco Sport in 2021. That means that there are approximately 118,868 that are in the scope of this recall. Assuming all 15 fires were in fact the result of faulty injectors, .013% of broncos burned because of this issue.
NomaiTraveler t1_ixy2kgh wrote
Nothing has changed in the last 50 years /s
blankityblank_blank t1_ixozo42 wrote
Possibility of leaking fuel injectors allowing fuel to accumulate outside of the combustion chamber.
Definitely not good.
At least they reduce engine output automatically if pressure drops are detected.