Submitted by diacewrb t3_z7rfq8 in technology
Glad-Driver-24 t1_iyaxv1z wrote
Reply to comment by DirtyPolecat in Social media firms face big UK fines if they fail to stop sexist and racist content by diacewrb
His point was that US websites can serve UK/EU users relevant ads without being present in the UK/EU, which is incorrect. I would understand if the US website only targeted US users but if you have UK/EU ads it means you're targeting users from those territories and could get fined.
DirtyPolecat t1_iyaxzsh wrote
Fined by who, exactly? Is an EU/UK official going to fly over to the US, find the offending website operator, and fine them? Good luck with that.
Glad-Driver-24 t1_iyaydnq wrote
Tell me genius, how are you supposed to target UK/EU users with relevant ads without explicitly being in the UK/EU? Do you honestly think that you, as a company, are going to be able to collect data from users in the UK/EU and not have any kind of repercussions? You're in the US, not Iran.
DirtyPolecat t1_iyayhuy wrote
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. My government isn't going to do shit if users from the EU see any of my ads and I happen to profit off them. That's how a sovereign country works.
Glad-Driver-24 t1_iyays3b wrote
They literally will. You wanna know why? Because literally no company has done it. Every US company, even those that don't even target EU users like US news sites block EU IP addresses because they don't want to comply with GDPR.
The US and UK/EU are not lawless lands, they comply heavily with each other. Imagine if copyright law was incompatible between the two.
DirtyPolecat t1_iyaza6t wrote
If I had the time, I can log onto a European VPN right now and probably find you hundreds of websites hosted inside the US not complying with GDPR but yet are still accessible from inside the EU and give you log files and screenshots and everything. There's way more out there than the big corporate sites that will bend over backwards for any country's laws.
Glad-Driver-24 t1_iyazm11 wrote
As someone who is actually in the EU and actually knows how many US websites either respect GDPR or block, it is the vast majority. Those that don't usually think they're small enough to get away with it. Certainly not when it comes to something like Twitter.
DirtyPolecat t1_iyb0805 wrote
Because the EU is a 700 million person market, and no big company wants to forever sully their potential profit on those people by getting on the EU's bad side. JimbobJamesNews.com however, isn't going to give a shit, and nobody in the US is going after them. The big ones aren't doing it because they're forced to. They're doing it because money.
DataGOGO t1_iyd885i wrote
>Tell me genius, how are you supposed to target UK/EU users with relevant ads without explicitly being in the UK/EU?
Easy. The source IP address, which is present in every request, reveals the source geo (unless using a VPN). So the site can present to you UK/EU specific ads.
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>Do you honestly think that you, as a company, are going to be able to collect data from users in the UK/EU and not have any kind of repercussions?
Yes, because that is exactly how it works today.
DataGOGO t1_iyd7u7i wrote
> which is incorrect.
It isn't.
> but if you have UK/EU ads it means you're targeting users from those territories and could get fined.
Incorrect.
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