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morenewsat11 OP t1_iy3hm2p wrote

>Elon Musk on Sunday said he was planning to expand Twitter's character limit from 280 to 1,000 characters as he continued to make changes to the social-media platform.
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>In response to a Twitter user's pitch about extending the character limit in each tweet to 1,000, Musk replied, saying "It's on the todo list."
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>Earlier in the day, Musk replied "good idea" to a Twitter user who suggested the company should make the character limit on tweets 420, instead of "that annoying 280."

When does Twitter stop being Twitter? So okay, what he says and what he's going to do are different things. IMHO 280 characters is already enough - most tweets (the best) don't come close to the number. (246)

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OtmShanks55 t1_iy3yb8s wrote

Oh, so an 720 extra characters for bots and trolls to spew hate?

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Robeleader t1_iy3yh9j wrote

I thought he bought Twitter, not LiveJournal...

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Banea-Vaedr t1_iy3zjwo wrote

Seems like he's recreating old reddit

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The_Darkprofit t1_iy40ukf wrote

No understanding of the product he is selling at all. No understanding of audience, nuance, or strategy. What a colossal failure he is proving himself to be.

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UnkindlyDisagree t1_iy43els wrote

This is actually a great idea that I welcome.

The character limit impairs discussion and turns everything into a slap flight.

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anavriN-oN t1_iy43vqi wrote

If you need more than 280 characters to convey a thought you might want to check yourself for Asperger’s.

Oh, wait…

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HiImDan t1_iy43vyp wrote

I'm just disappointed it's not a nice round number like 1024

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Jyith t1_iy44t5j wrote

Everyone hear ye hear ye! Musk the Grandificent (a new word probably invented by the Grandificent himself) will PERSONALLY go, and with his little sausage fingers fix this issue!

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The_Starmaker t1_iy44ys5 wrote

If he doesn't understand why there's a short character limit, he never understood the platform at all.

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m64 t1_iy45y0q wrote

NGL, Mastodon's 500 characters is way more comfy and still readable in pretty much the same manner as Twitter (though perhaps only because people were already trained by Twitter to keep it short ;)

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ffdfawtreteraffds t1_iy47vsw wrote

Mm-kay. That's an additional 720 characters for me to not give a shit about.

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TheCrimsonFreak t1_iy48q4q wrote

Still not gonna bring advertisers back, Musky. How's failure taste?

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BeDecentFFS t1_iy48y1w wrote

He wants to spin Twitter into some kind of catchall comms platform complete with video conferencing. Nobody there to manage his insane expectations, unlike SpaceX and Tesla that have management teams that know how to keep him from destroying everything.

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Love_Sausage t1_iy4a5kj wrote

Has there ever been a greater example of “seagull management” in business history?

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HarikMCO t1_iy4bd6o wrote

of course he is, which is why he fired the team that had already implemented the feature, scrapped it, and then tasked people with re-implementing it.

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HarikMCO t1_iy4bovc wrote

Replying to m64 (#736,013)

most instances bump up the limit because it's so limiting, the use of auto-collapse and summaries (that liveurinal had over two decades ago) are far superior to forced brevity and those godawful 23/??? tweetstorms.

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XRNOHPORTER t1_iy4df66 wrote

He should make it 666. The conspiracy nuts will go absolutely crazy

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why_lurch t1_iy4flt5 wrote

Why not keep the 280 limit for a free tier, then make a premium tier where each additional character costs 💲

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B33rtaster t1_iy4guaa wrote

Nothing like twitter on fire to keep me warm in these cold months.

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UnkindlyDisagree t1_iy4nh72 wrote

Replying to Geiseric222 (#739,134)

The fact that you assume that I'm a Musk fan says everything that needs to be said about nuance.

This is the problem with Reddit: you guys can tell good things from bad things in broad strokes, but as soon as someone says something actually nuanced you lose your shit and start othering people.

For example, one might say "This is a good thing, but this is a bad argument for this good thing" and y'all throw a fit and start yelling "Oh so you support bad thing, uh? BAD THING SUPPORTER!". It happens every. fucking. time.

Good enough of a point fro you? Do you see yourself in what I've said? If so, yikes.

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Geiseric222 t1_iy4ns73 wrote

Replying to UnkindlyDisagree (#739,310)

So your going to stick with having no real arguments but just a vague sense of superiority?

Because if that’s what your trying to do, your failing at accomplishing that. You just look dumb

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Spiritual_Swing_2326 t1_iy4o2xo wrote

That will completely spam up people's feeds, allow insane people to really go off. :(

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Geiseric222 t1_iy4pcuf wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#739,584)

Ah so when you said buy nuance what you actually meant is you like it and are mad that others think it’s stupid. Why not say that rather than pretending it had anything to do with nuance or any of that crap.

I get it’s because that doesn’t feed your superiority complex but still

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MrWhite t1_iy4ph7d wrote

Is that on the list before or after Tesla robo-taxis?

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Geiseric222 t1_iy4puag wrote

Replying to UnkindlyDisagree (#739,751)

Yes and people tweet out those messages not for spirited debate but just to get that message out. No one wants to get bogged down in a pointless debate on Twitter.

Literally the only politicians that even respond to twitter threads are the most pathetic and inconsequential of the group

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UnkindlyDisagree t1_iy4pvyp wrote

Replying to Geiseric222 (#739,735)

I mean, stop and think before fucking typing. You just said Twitter is for shitposting, do you have an idea of how stupid that is? 90% of news embed tweets. Every politician thinker and institution talks on Twitter first. The trending hashtags are a gauge for what's going on. At least before Musk bought it.

Just because your boogeyman bought it doesn't mean you gotta lose your cools and wet your panties.

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kronicfeld t1_iy4q6nd wrote

DISRUPTING the INTERNET by INVENTING LIVEJOURNAL

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XxXlolgamerXxX t1_iy4qs8o wrote

You know why the popular vine app allow just 6 seconds of video? The limit of characters is a feature not an issue.

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grimace24 t1_iy4s9hd wrote

1,000 characters is no longer a tweet, it's a tangent.

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YoRHaL-9000 t1_iy4wpps wrote

"Welcome to Twitter, come write your manifesto here!"

$44 billion to make Twitter the Wooden Shack in Montana of Social Media.

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tundey_1 t1_iy4yc3w wrote

Imagine buying a super expensive super-bike and deciding the one thing missing is that it doesn't have 4 wheels. So, you proceed to shoehorn 2 more tires to your super-bike because you have more money than sense.

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Rockonious t1_iy4zc8x wrote

I said it before and I'll say it again, Musk is a complete tosser...

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Queekusme t1_iy54xho wrote

If he does this imma post the bee movie script daily… no, hourly!

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snowyshards t1_iy56tov wrote

Replying to The_Darkprofit (#734,990)

Nah, that's a good thing, but its probably not an Elon idea because previous workers on Twitter already confirmed that solving the problem of character limit was already in the works, Elon just wanted to steal the credit.

The character limit was never a good thing, in fact it used to be worse when posting pictures on tweets would also count as words and the limit was 120 characters I believe.

Seriously, it was never a good thing that one of the most influential means of communication with the literal world leaders on it has a character limit. Twitter user had to make up corny words like oomfie and shit like that in hopes to communicate and almost everyone has to word their tweets in way to use as little words as possible but simultaneously make it so nobody takes their wording the wrong way (this is why the waffle and pancakes meme exist).

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ResearchFew9041 t1_iy57un5 wrote

one thing I think everyone is forgetting here is if it winds up being a mistake it is legit just a 4 numbers to change in the code and it gets reverted. You're watching some ancient website that has barely changed over the past years be innovated. On top of that, I imagine twitter has some serious statistics that they capture and will be able to tell, factually, if it was a good idea or not.

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NineteenAD9 t1_iy59pgw wrote

This just defeats the purpose of actually being Twitter.

People will just use something else. Bye bye remaining advertisers

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movzx t1_iy5drzg wrote

Replying to ResearchFew9041 (#743,220)

> one thing I think everyone is forgetting here is if it winds up being a mistake it is legit just a 4 numbers to change in the code and it gets reverted.

There is absolutely zero way this is "4 numbers to change in the code" and simple to revert. You are either not a developer, or you are a developer who has never gotten anywhere near an enterprise-scale application before.

There are significant migration effort required to ensure zero downtime and performance impact when modifying your data schema. Rolling that back on a whim is a non-starter.

Not to mention unintended side effects of almost quadrupling the expected data payload across your entire architecture.

> You're watching some ancient website that has barely changed over the past years

Factually untrue. Also, another big indicator you are not a developer. User facing change is not the only change that happens on applications.

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HeartrendingHello t1_iy5iph4 wrote

I've never had more than 140 characters on Twitter ...

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BlueMonkOne t1_iy5jfxa wrote

Elon loves Twitter so much he is going to kill it.

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TW_Yellow78 t1_iy5jj67 wrote

Replying to The_Starmaker (#735,825)

He never did. He was always saying Twitter should be like china's weibo which is hub for almost all online activity in china (twitter, instagram, facebook, amazon, etc.) I mean imagine the profits if you can control all social media and online shopping. It'd be like Windows or Google.

He thinks people are too stupid to realize weibo is so big as social media BECAUSE the government controls it to censor at will and eliminated competitors (for example the recent protests where the protesters were airdropping info got shut down by apple through pressure from chinese government).

Of course maybe he thought his government friends would help him out there too with subsidies and government contracts like with his other companies. (Like the people calling for twitter to be a "public utility.")

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kraenk12 t1_iy5jxq4 wrote

How fucking stupid can this guy be?

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ResearchFew9041 t1_iy5mqwl wrote

Replying to movzx (#744,280)

As I mentioned, I'm sure Twitter has the statistics to determine if the change is a good idea or not before making it live. The data schema change may require a migration effort, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to roll back if it turns out to be a mistake. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's definitely doable. As for the data payload, that's a valid concern and something Twitter will have to take into consideration. As for what I said about the 4 numbers to change in the code, that's referring to the code itself, not the data schema. The code is much easier to revert than the data schema, which is why I said it. And as for the ancient website, I'm referring to the look and feel of Twitter, which hasn't changed drastically in years, not the underlying code. I was talking high high level, you brought it down to low level.

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snowyshards t1_iy5uwdo wrote

Replying to ShadyKnucks (#744,828)

That was the original intention until it become the most influentical social media app where all politics take place.

Ultimatums are not going to cut it, I have seen many times people getting cancelled because they worded out badly something important they wanted to say while trying to keep it under 280 characters.

Twitter was being used for things it was never meant for and that become irs main audience, something about the character limit had to be made

And this is no me defending Elon, Twitter's previous staff before his takeover was already considering something like this.

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anunfriendlytoaster t1_iy5zz6i wrote

Just got find out which developer can do that and rehire them.

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Minerva182 t1_iy62b76 wrote

This comment section is hilarious. I think I can almost feed from haters coping. I love it.

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HellBlazer1221 t1_iy648e0 wrote

Then he might as well rename it from Twitter to Chirpier.

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Kill3rT0fu t1_iy649m1 wrote

Elon Musk also says he sniffs his own farts

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fogcat5 t1_iy6ns7i wrote

Why not just add racist epithets repeating on the end of all the tweets to make every one of them look 1000 characters long? It would look about the same.

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WillDeletOneDay t1_iy734wy wrote

So basically he wants to destroy the entire premise that the site was founded on?

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Rem4g t1_iy7cglm wrote

This is a 1000 character post. It’s not actually that bad really. A lot of people are now just using the add tweet function and making threads anyway so I don’t hate the idea of increasing the amount of characters so more can fit in a single tweet.

It will also allow people to use proper English without having to shorten everything. U kno wat I mean?

Twitter has already allowed people to add multiple tweets at the point of inception, creating a thread post. 1000 characters wouldn’t stop people from tweeting short messages either.

Fuck me I’m only at 572 characters now.

Ok 1000 characters is too much!

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russdb t1_iy7fd2v wrote

Replying to The_Starmaker (#735,825)

Well then what's it for then? Because there aren't any good reasons for limiting conversation like that.

It hinders discussions. Important discussion and real, actually meaningful discussions cannot be had on Twitter currently.

Considering that Twitter only made a profit for two years in it's entire existence, perhaps they never even knew what they were good for.

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russdb t1_iy7fn61 wrote

No one says mastodon sucks because it has a higher character limit, but plenty of scholars and such bemoan the short character limit as stifling important conversation. I actually like this move.

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White_lynx_investor t1_iy7huiy wrote

Great! He is about to create a blog website with responses and votes… where have I see that? Ahhh, REDDIT! 🤣

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Difficult-World3 t1_iy7lvok wrote

It’ll be the one good thing he does. 1,000 is still a bit low but a significant upgrade over the current limit. Either way, move to the fediverse.

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ThrowAway5NF8WA1LCr t1_iy80fdv wrote

Elon: "What makes Twitter unique compared to its peers?"

Engineers: {produce a long list of things only Twitter does}

Elon: "Great! Let's change all those thing!!"

Dude has bought Twitter and is deadset on turning it into Blogger.com

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iqisoverrated t1_iy81y1v wrote

Replying to The_Starmaker (#735,825)

You mean twitter is designed for brainfarts? In that case it might not be a bad idea to increase the character limit. At least give people the option to express some actually thoughtful content for a change.

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Maximum-Ad7213 t1_iyadpaa wrote

Replying to ResearchFew9041 (#770,030)

Oh shit, buddy, that was a slam! Perhaps you’re right, maybe I should “get brought” back to school. Though, I’ll note that your word choice smacks of a teenager who is still currently being brought to school.

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ResearchFew9041 t1_iybcvse wrote

Replying to Maximum-Ad7213 (#781,834)

Well, I'm glad you think you have me figured out. But I'm more than happy to remind you that I'm a grown adult with a college degree. Why did you quote me using the phrase "get brought" when you (hopefully) know that is right in this context? Here's a 3rd grade English question that you may help you out: Maximum-Ad7213 was brought to school by his parents. What does "brought" mean in this sentence, and how should it be used?

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Maximum-Ad7213 t1_iybpugc wrote

Replying to ResearchFew9041 (#790,397)

Homie, you’ve never said that you have a college degree, so the reminder is more of a first time statement. You’ve also inserted one too many words, but hey, I’m sure you’re using a cell phone and shitting right now too. As far as your third grade question, that would be a little advanced for that age group, but not impossible. How do I know? I also have a college degree, in fact I used to be a English teacher. Now? I have an advanced degree and no longer teach. You, my child, have been trolled and your responses dwell in one of my areas of expertise. I’d say a better exercise to understand the phrase “get brought” would be to tell me what types of words each are and how they operate in a verb phrase. Also, I’d encourage revision because you sounded fucking stupid haha

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ResearchFew9041 t1_iycuy0f wrote

Replying to Maximum-Ad7213 (#794,070)

>Homie, you’ve never said that you have a college degree, so the reminder is more of a first time statement. You’ve also inserted one too many words, but hey, I’m sure you’re using a cell phone and shitting right now too. As far as your third grade question, that would be a little advanced for that age group, but not impossible. How do I know? I also have a college degree, in fact I used to be a English teacher. Now? I have an advanced degree and no longer teach. You, my child, have been trolled and your responses dwell in one of my areas of expertise. I’d say a better exercise to understand the phrase “get brought” would be to tell me what types of words each are and how they operate in a verb phrase. Also, I’d encourage revision because you sounded fucking stupid haha

​ Oh, I see. You’re trying to be clever by pretending to have a college degree. I'm sure you were a great English teacher, but let me school you on the English language. The phrase "get brought" is a verb phrase consisting of an auxiliary verb ("get") and a past participle verb ("brought"). In this sentence, "brought" is an action verb that means "to take someone or something to a place or person". Therefore, the phrase "get brought" means "to be taken to a place or person". I'm glad you attempted to educate me, but you should have done your homework first. I suggest you brush up on your English and stop pretending to be something you're not.

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ResearchFew9041 t1_iycv3sc wrote

Replying to Maximum-Ad7213 (#794,070)

You've clearly never met me before, so it's more of a surprise to you that I have a college degree than it is a reminder. Also, it's not just the phrase "get brought", but the fact that you used it in a derogatory manner that I found offensive. Now that I know you're an English teacher, I think you should be familiar with the difference between the active and passive forms of verbs, which is what you need to understand to answer my question properly. Furthermore, I think it's worth noting that insulting someone's intelligence is usually a sign of insecurity, and it's not a very effective way to prove your own. If you're confident in your own abilities, you won't need to resort to such tactics.

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ResearchFew9041 t1_iycv78a wrote

Replying to Maximum-Ad7213 (#794,070)

You seem to be quite proud of yourself and your education, but that doesn't change the fact that you've been trolling me. Your responses have been rife with incorrect grammar and word choice. If you're so confident in your knowledge, why don't you explain what types of words "get brought" is composed of, and how it operates in a verb phrase? I'm sure you can do better than the condescension you've been exhibiting. If not, then perhaps you should take a refresher course in English composition.

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ResearchFew9041 t1_iycw9z5 wrote

Replying to Maximum-Ad7213 (#794,070)

It looks like I'm not the only one here who should take some time to brush up on their English skills. I'm well aware of the difference between a verb, verb phrase, and conjugation. And it seems you may have forgotten the key principle of teaching: educate before you criticize.

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