Hey - if they can do it to Taiwan, they can do it to the U.S.

What is new?

They do sometimes

Knock knock, tik tok

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The US already does enough of it to itself, I wonder how much China would even need to contribute at this point

The US perpetrates cyberattacks on itself? What? Lmao.

No, disinformation

Xinnie the Pooh can huff and puff all he wants, but he’s still not getting an intact Taiwan nor an intact TSMC.

With TSMC they could control the 21st and likely the 22nd century. Without both ASML and TSMC (or access to their chips), they’re totally screwed because they can’t make the mid or high end chips themselves and won’t be able to compete.

If they invade: its scorched earth baby, and the real goals (stated above) will be unobtainable.

Can’t even manage their way out of covid, good luck conquering Taiwan

Before you start r/sino, Taiwan is better than mainland Taiwan.

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China already sends its loyal CCP followers to US and Canada and encourages them to run for office here so they agree more with CCP agenda and less with western governments.

Can? Come on now…

That's why so much crap is "Top Secret" - if people only knew how much they are being screwed over - & not just by our own government.

As much as those are significant goals, their real goal is what they say, idealogical demagoguery. They really want taiwan to let their population know they did something Mao wanted so badly. And by they I mean Xi.

Right?

Holy shot, shitman!

It's likely very effective when only a dozen countries actually recognize Taiwan.

What's up with all of these wannabe super-powers bullying smaller countries lately?

lol, all by it's self?

Flat earth nonsense... vax misinfo, even bothsides of a political protest, were boosted/coordinated by Russia

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-trolls-senate-intelligence-committee-hearing-2017-11

They always been bad. Now we just dont want to take it anymore

Yeah i think anyone associated with ccp needs the boot

They do but CCP is only part of the problem, it’s decades of people thinking CCP is something when it’s just a corrupt bunch of people. China would collapse if CCP were to go.

I meant the west needs to stop allowing the ccp and their families the ability to stay. Xi jinping’s daughter for example is still in usa

Gotcha, gotcha yeah with the decline of younger people there’s gonna be more Indians don’t worry lol

…? You sound like a bot

Eh, I’m saying Chinese population is getting older. They are having less kids. I figure they’re going all out or be beaten by India who is still rising in population. I mean CCP will try to influence like ever other super power but the time is limited

Both sides guy here right on time

Effectively, yes. Sometimes it's by people who are straight up malicious. Sometimes it's by "innocent" people who genuinely believe the nonsense. Alex Jones would be a good example of the first, anyones parents could be an example of the second. Both dangerous, but with completely different intentions.

Was there a time when that wasn't a thing?

"In April 2020, during the height of the pandemic, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the director-general of the World Health Organization, said he had been subject to racial slurs on the internet from Taiwanese accounts.

Taiwan responded by saying the slurs originated from China, but were made under the pretense of being Taiwanese people."

And then everyone in Taiwan laughed at the excuse knowing full well that Taiwanese keyboard warriors are just as racist as the rest of the world. No one who has ever been to Taiwan would be surprised to find out there were instances of racism.

China is such a convenient out for the Taiwaneae people at times. They have horrible air pollution but pretend to blame it on pollution blowing over from China so they don't have to address their own problems.

Taiwan still has all kinds of pointless covid mandates.

Edit: If you're going to downvote me at least point out which one of the dozens upon dozens of Covid mandates and regulations the Taiwanese government is still enforcing that isn't pointless. I'm listening.

The US as a state actor is not perpetratrating a disinformation campaign against itself. That is utterly ridiculous. It serves 0 purpose to the US to create instability.

Sure, some people in the US are acting in bad faith and even maliciously, but to say the US as an entity is doing it is misleading.

That is an equally stupid take. The disinformation is almost certainly perpetrated by foreign influence. The US as a state actor is not causing instability because it would serve no purpose.

China likely just bought a bunch of votes allowing the pro-China KMT party to take a number of political offices across the island in the recent election. They can’t invade so they’re doing the same thing they did to Hong Kong.

Some internet comments from allegedly Taiwanese accounts seem really insignificant compared to an actual country (that was actually doing well public health-wise) being excluded from the WHO during a global pandemic.

Like what, masks? No one cares about having to wear masks, and they’re already loosening those measures anyways. Like it was just never a political priority. What pointless mandates?

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Only risk is china backed public opinion swaying locally, and our insane politics.

I can easily see a “why are we spending money on Taiwan” popular opinion spread.

The useless ones like masks in schools but not when having PE class or when presenting, masks in restaurants unless you're sitting at a table with a dozen people until you get up from the table and then magically masks are required again, somehow a kid turning 3 magically requiring a mask, silly 3 day absences from school for symptoms, still not letting parents attend school functions or more than one parent attending a teacher conference, the list goes on and on.

They still have tons of silly, pointless, wasteful, mandates that are just a power trip for those on top and a panic crutch for those on the bottom.

There are tons of people who are getting fed up with the silly mandates and it's 100% political at this point. There was a reason it kept coming up over and over again leading up to the elections yesterday.

The common point with Russia is that a big dictatorship cannot afford long term to have a neighbor flourishing democracy with people from the similar cultures. It’s easier to make people hate the US than the neighbor country many have relatives or friends from. So, exaggerated propaganda and war are the only options they see.

Never underestimate the power of a totemic fetish charm. It’s woven into our dna from a million years of hominid evolution. Masks today are the 21st century version of the decorative rattle used to repel evil spirits while dancing around a fire in Turkey 19,000 years ago.