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DeafHeretic t1_iue5ie2 wrote

>Trying to leapfrog to FSD was too much of a gap and people underestimated the complexity of the problem, the maturity of the technology, and effort required to achieve the goals.

It is a hard problem, one that as you infer, will take time and a lot of effort.

One of the harder problems I see, is driving on the kind of roads and in the kind of conditions that I have to deal with; a gravel road that is muddy or icy or covered in snow, with no easily discernable edges - especially during the night or when covered with snow - especially when covered with snow (often unplowed). Add in ruts in the snow after multiple vehicles have driven any snow covered road, and you have conditions that are hard for humans to drive thru, much less an AI.

I have 50+ years of driving experience and it isn't easy for me to navigate the roads to my house on a remote mountain. In another 10-15 years I will probably want/need a self-driving car, so I hope there is significant progress made, but while there has been significant progress made from 20 years ago, I think the developers are now hitting the hard problems and it will take more time than I have left.

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jrockwar t1_iueq24p wrote

That is the difference between L4 and L5. L4 is full self driving, unsupervised, on controlled environments. L5 is fully unsupervised, anywhere, anytime.

As someone working on this sector: I think we're about 50-100 years away from L5, if it ever happens. Getting an AI to work "anywhere, anytime" is almost an utopia.

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rcxdude t1_iug1bhg wrote

TBH, a lot of humans aren't at L5 by that standard.

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iheartjetman t1_iuewl2m wrote

Would it be easier if autonomous cars ran on train tracks (or something similar) instead of roads?

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lItsAutomaticl t1_iuexz3c wrote

If manufacturers could agree on a standard, they could start installing radio transmitters or some other sensor on roads that would keep vehicles in their lane.

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