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neo101b t1_itd88jg wrote

Use signal, its the only one I trust so far.

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pfaccioxx OP t1_itdh05v wrote

I think at one point this preposol would have also involved implementing encryption backdoors or outright making encrypted chat iligol, I admit I am not 100% up to date with the current version of the preposol, but if that's still a thing then signal would be forced to stop operating in the EU or compromise there service if they don't want to brake the law.

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OrderlyPanic t1_itfv4p0 wrote

Would be very dark to see a concerted effort to block Signal in Europe the same way regimes like those in Myanmar and Iran have attempted to do.

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Heres_your_sign t1_itjh0y1 wrote

Do it. Someone will modify the TCP ports signal uses and the dictators will be guessing.

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Frosty-Cell t1_itgemrm wrote

The idea is the message is scanned before it's encrypted and sent.

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KrystalineDragon t1_itdsx2g wrote

I absolutely hate it. But I'm not even surprised at this happening. I'm just wondering what right will we be stripped of next.

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Heres_your_sign t1_itjheyr wrote

They can make whatever they want illegal. If we need to go back to compiling our own clients from source code, we will.

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Crifrald t1_itfaje8 wrote

The biggest problem with this kind of legislation, in my opinion, is the lack of transparency. Without being able to verify the algorithm used, and the kind of information that can be collected, I can never be sure that my rights are being respected. On the other hand if the process is transparent I can easily find ways to circumvent it, so this kind of legislation doesn't make sense unless it's intended as a slippery slope to make end-to-end encryption completely illegal.

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JAYKEBAB t1_itfbwu9 wrote

The biggest problem Really? Not the fact you're being treated like a criminal? Human or not, it's a violation of privacy with 0 evidence behind it and quite literally the opposite of innocent until proven guilty.

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Crifrald t1_itfer4a wrote

I never said that those weren't problems, but from a legal and logical perspective, I think that they are less likely to defeat the proposal than my argument, because there are situations, like at airports and even Copyright law in some jurisdictions, where you already are treated like a criminal by default. People aren't challenging those laws likely because the notion of proportionality is subjective, however it is almost universally agree that transparency is absolutely vital to promote a healthy democracy, and that it is only permissible to hide information from the public when it involves national security, which is not the case here.

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Heres_your_sign t1_itjhlgz wrote

They cannot make encryption illegal. They can try, it is unenforceable.

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Heres_your_sign t1_itjgkwh wrote

They will never be able to read a conversation I don't want them too. This is literally the only reason I continue to maintain my programming skills. It is becoming a form of resistance and this is my time to contribute.

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reconRyan t1_itghm52 wrote

I love being American but the more democrats get in office the more our rights seem to erode.

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pfaccioxx OP t1_iu9rmoi wrote

Yea, cos Republicans are trying to make things so much better what with there trump style propaganda, refusal to take responsibility for there own actions, and making it easier for there bilyare friends to make ton's of $ at the expense of everyone else /s

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