[deleted] t1_iubrupo wrote on October 30, 2022 at 2:55 AM

Reply to comment by anlumo in Scott Forstall was fired from Apple 10 years ago today by stanxv

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anlumo t1_iubsh3y wrote on October 30, 2022 at 3:00 AM

UIs have specific needs. They not only should look nice, but also be practical. For example, macOS now hides scrollbars by default. It makes the screen look nicer, but I've made a lot of mistakes by not recognizing that a certain view was scrollable, so I was missing content I didn’t know existed.

Ive has no idea about this. He went straight to nicely looking designs with no regards to practicalities. He also got rid of UI control borders, making them blur together with the background. This is an accessibility nightmare.

They added accessibility options to bring back both scrollbars and control borders, but they made the UI look like garbage, because they just didn’t care.

happyscrappy t1_iuembyv wrote on October 30, 2022 at 7:13 PM

The thing to bring scrollbars back isn't even under accessibility. It's in the general setting as you need it if you don't use a mouse with two-way scroll wheel.

And some Apple apps don't completely work right if you turn them on.

GoldWallpaper t1_iuf6nn5 wrote on October 30, 2022 at 9:28 PM

> He went straight to nicely looking designs with no regards to practicalities.

It was really clear that nobody at Apple at the time was doing any UX testing with real-world users.