funkboxing t1_iuddgn8 wrote on October 30, 2022 at 2:06 PM

Reply to comment by Avangelice in Electric vehicles catch aflame during Ian aftermath by sacrificezones

Any battery can ignite a fire but that isn't really comparable to a lithium ion battery fire. Addressing issues with EVs is how we make them safer, maybe knock off the pre-accusation of 'anti-EV' sentiment.

axecrazyorc t1_iudfwbh wrote on October 30, 2022 at 2:24 PM

No, no, NO! There can be no improvement because [thing] is already perfect! If you ever criticize [thing] for any reason it’s because you’re morally against [thing] and are a shill for [corporate entity or industry]!

natophonic2 t1_iudp53w wrote on October 30, 2022 at 3:31 PM

Yeah, the feels of being pro-nuclear but also thinking that Chernobyl and Fukushima were bad things and that fission waste disposal could be improved a lot.

axecrazyorc t1_iudptc9 wrote on October 30, 2022 at 3:36 PM

Feel that SO hard. What’s worse is you also have people on the OTHER side of the fence who believe one bad example of [thing] means all possible forms of [thing] must be bad. The actual anti-nuclear crowd who think all reactors everywhere are just Chernobyl. So the people with valid criticisms or ideas about how [thing] might be improved get shit on by both sides.

irishmadcat t1_iudq9ub wrote on October 30, 2022 at 3:39 PM

If the Japanese goverment can't ensure a safe nuclear power plant I don't trust my own "ah we accidentally forgot our own environment regulations and approved a motorway" goverment. I don't they thinkk that's unreasonable.

axecrazyorc t1_iudth15 wrote on October 30, 2022 at 4:01 PM

Then that’s not a criticism of nuclear power, it’s a criticism of of the government. Which is fully valid.

It’s also worth noting that the Fukushima reactor’s safety systems did EXACTLY what they were designed to do. The plant didn’t melt down, it flooded in a record-setting tsunami caused by the largest earthquake in Japanese history. Even then it caused 1 death from radiation poisoning and 13 non-fatal injuries. I’d say that’s pretty impressive all things considered. Hell, even the WHO said any increased risk of cancer due to radiation exposure was negligible, with radiation levels in the area being under 10 mSv over a lifetime, compared to 170 mSv from just normal background radiation.

Dr-Beeps t1_iuemaxq wrote on October 30, 2022 at 7:13 PM

The dumb Germans started shutting down their plants because of Fukushima. Stupid considering they don’t have earthquakes and no coastline to speak of.

axecrazyorc t1_iuenliq wrote on October 30, 2022 at 7:22 PM

r/mildlyinfuriating material, that. Imagine Americans suddenly having a debilitating fear of geothermal after a volcano in Hawaii…

Actually I can 100% imagine that happening if politicians put the right spin on it. Probably say something about Yellowstone. Iirc that’s how it went in Germany; politicians with fossil fuel ties hit the ground running and drove a panic about how “DaNgErOuS” nuclear power is. And seeing as how the average person of any nation has as much sense as a goose, and only get stupider the more you group together, it wasn’t hard to convince them that every reactor in Europe was a hard rain from glassing the entire continent.