One of history’s great own-goals, and now even if they wanted back in the EU, I can’t imagine it would be easy.

I had a silly dream, where the EU wanted to join Brexit, just to annoy the UK

so did the eu force the uk to strictly follow their regulations at all times or only when they were trading with the eu?

The UK was demanding more printed paperwork

>One of history’s great own-goals, and now even if they wanted back in the EU, I can’t imagine it would be easy.

My bet is after awhile they get sick of it and rejoin (or at least try to) once the current leadership in the UK is ousted. It was always just a plan to crash the English economy and allow the wealthy buy up more real estate at bargain prices from those forced to sell. That's mostly done now so the wealthy Brexit backers don't much care what happens. Just gonna take a bit of time for all the suckers that got duped into voting for it to get over thier shame and support rejoining (or they don't come around and just die off, either way)

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I think your theory about the wealthy is a bit far fetched. The wealthy that has a business has lost/is losing a lot and still some of those voted for Brexit. It is more about ideology than common sense. One of the main reason is that people can't stand the fact some rules decided by non English people apply to them. A mistake from the EU commission is to meddle in too many things that infringe on the culture of a particular country. This problem of "ideology" vs fact or common sense is becoming quite tiresome as it applies to so many things these days. For example in the energy sector which is now costing us greatly...

It's a single market so every country basically has to follow the same set of rules. For example the EU commission/parliament will come up with a directive and every country has to implement it. Not much different from one country parliament voting a law and everyone in the country has to follow it excepted here they put that particular law in place to follow the EU directive. That's a reason why people don't like the EU because it's something not decided by the government they've elected in their country and politicians of the countries are quick to blame the EU when something doesn't go right because it's much easier to blame someone else than yourself.

You miss my point. The average person tired of EU rules didn't bankroll millions in "pro-brexit" ad campaigns- someone with millions to spend (and many more to make) did.

Can you imagine they’re still trying to sell off as a win? Watched some political debate and Tory MP after being challenge that trade went down massively and UK losing billions because of it every year, he said Brexit couldn’t stretch its legs because of Covid…

The UK might get back in, but we would not get anything like the deal we had last time.

The Tories absolutely screwed the nation..just look at the recent market chaos thanks to Truss and Kwarteng. These idiots are so far right-wing they are actually wrong-wing!

It also means most dealings with countries outside of the EU require their OK, making business outside of the EU a LOT more troublesome and annoying.

At minimum (so could be higher,) with any disputes capable of being enforced from any member country. If someone wants to sue you from Hungary, they can do so and can expect an equivalent result as if they sued you in UK, Portugal, or any other Single Market (SM) member country. Though the rules are set by an "external" power, at least the UK had a vote and some representation on what the rules and trading policy is.

Now? Market size of the EU means that it's impossible to ignore the rules of your largest and most importantly nearest trade partner. So practically speaking UK businesses are effectively tied to these rules anyways, now without any votes or representation.

That's just how it is when trading. End of the day: You must be compliant with the importer's standards. Inside the Single Market this would be baked into your rules, so there's little need to have documents checked at the border between members. With EU membership you'd even have a vote on what those rules are. Outside of it like any other 3rd country (US, China, Australia, aka non SM member) you must prove it via documentation and provide it at the border into the SM, no matter how closely your country's laws align with said rules.

Probably not full EU membership within the decade, and certainly not with all (or any) of the old exceptions the UK had as an old member.

But there is a decent chance that Single Market (SM) and Customs Union (CU) membership may be fast tracked, as in a couple of years, if that.

The SM and CU are the economic engines of the EU, which is what most suffering Brexit are moaning about.

To get in (it's prerequisite to full EU membership anyways:)

1. UK by extension Parliament must be restricted to at minimum have legislation that complies with all present and future Single Market rules. Must be aligned with SM to be an SM member after all. Not that big a deal as Tories haven't yet diverged too heavily from regs......although that "bonfire" is currently being debated in Westminster.

2. To join the CU, UK must forfeit all independent trade policy. CU works by aligning so all members provide a unified set of tariffs to nonmembers, allowing custom free trade between members. Not really a problem to forfeit either given UK's anemic if not outright damaging (to UK, awesome for say, Australia) post Brexit trade deals.

3. Resubmit to the European Court of Justice, which oversees disputes within the Single Market.

4. Bear in mind SM and CU is not full EU membership, which is where EU Council and Parliament are in. Meaning UK will not have any votes or formal decisionmaking on what SM or CU policy is.

After all these conditions are met, I would imagine EU accepts quite quickly as

1. They get a reopening of a large market compliant with its rules

2. No meddling UK politicians in EU legislative process, particularly important with the likes of Farage or other Brexiteers getting voted in again.

3. Resolves the Northern Ireland Protocol, as now both sides have formally aligned, meaning no need for checks again, and therefore no need for border infrastructure to conduct said checks at either Ireland (imperils GFA) or the Protocol's Irish Sea (gets DUP Unionists all ornery.)

“By the end of 2025, CE-marked products made in Northern Ireland will be able to circulate in Britain, but those from the EU, Switzerland or Turkey won’t,” said William Bain, the BCC’s head of trade policy. “How will they differentiate between products made in Northern Ireland and those that are imported into Northern Ireland and then sent over to Great Britain? All of that needs to be resolved, and it’s causing great uncertainty.”

My God, it's as if this whole thing was a political stunt instead of an economic management system.

Brexit was stupid from the beginning, you can't expect to separate your economy from the EU after several decades of partnership and not expect severe economic backlash. Just imagine the amount of small business owners who were fucked over because of the reduced market and increased requirements for migration and visiting. People's lives and finances got worse because of it and for what?