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IllKissYourBoobies t1_iu7x7ba wrote

Oh, look. A CCP company doing CCP things.

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JasonZep t1_iu880fe wrote

Hasn’t it been know from the beginning this was a CCP company tracking people?

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Modsda3 t1_iu8lq30 wrote

ending them in the US was the ONE trump idea i was onboard with

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K1nsey6 t1_iu9ixlz wrote

He wanted to give it's ad revenue and tracking info to a US company, not save us from China.

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mrbaryonyx t1_iu9qh1u wrote

exactly, that company was Oracle

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K1nsey6 t1_iu9ue2k wrote

It was Oracle AND Walmart. A retail company's wet dream

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Daimakku1 t1_iu9ffqt wrote

Same, but dont give him too much credit. He only wanted to ban Tiktok because Tiktok kids trolled him by buying all the stadium seats for his campaigns and made it seem like they were going to be huge, and they turned out to be half empty. He got butthurt and wanted to ban it. Nothing the guy ever did was for the good of anyone but himself.

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flybydenver t1_iu9jbar wrote

Yes the DOD even issued a statement saying as much.

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m_toyman t1_iucpf2d wrote

But he still HAD THOUSANDS show up compared to who “won”. There is A LOT he has been correct about. Sorry but true.

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akmjolnir t1_iu9mc8h wrote

No one cares except security-types. The kids need to cure ALS, or whatever.

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Street_Following6911 t1_iu7yk4c wrote

Will people still use it?yeah. Will they care? No. Does it matter? I unno.

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-Bluedreams t1_iu82z3x wrote

I'm one of the only people in my friend group who don't have it. Every time people ask why, I tell them because of this reason and they always just shrug it off.

People genuinely do not care

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Street_Following6911 t1_iu83hjz wrote

People are conditioned to giving away their data. It's free it's fun it's what's popular. I personally don't really like the short form content but I'm probably not the demographic anyways. There are plenty of sites still out there I can look at short vids of people being idiots.

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KamikazeWaterm3lon t1_iuc0j1u wrote

I mean. If you're American you were already assigned a number at birth. We carry monitoring equipment in our pocket. Big brother already has everything even if you try and keep your data private. I'm all for privacy but at that point, why even bother?

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Street_Following6911 t1_iuc0yug wrote

Big brother and Uncle Sam are always looking over your shoulder. Then you got cousin Elon and Jeff and Mark. Do we really need more? Lol

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ColinHenrichon t1_iu98n2u wrote

I think it’s because we are already being tracked by American tech giants as well. Google, Meta, even Apple is guilty. People make a big deal about China doing it because it’s China, but turn a blind eye when it’s America because it’s America. The CCP can know what they want, I have nothing to hide, I’ll never go to China ever. I’m not saying we should ignore it, we shouldn’t, all I’m saying is that’s probably why many don’t care. It hasn’t effected their daily lives to negatively (yet) and what difference does it make if China or American tech giants track you. Either way you are the product they are selling.

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thenerdal t1_iu8gvfp wrote

I'm one of the people.

Current operating systems have permissions now. Tiktok has no permissions on my end and I don't think there's been an app that has bypassed the new permission system.

Also, I read the original source to the article and all they got was the ip location, which is very vague and pretty much wrong sometimes.

So it's not that big of an issue like people here think.

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0wed12 t1_iu8d1zq wrote

From a non-american PoV, what's the difference between TikTok and Apple or Google who have their own privacy issues and have been caught selling your datas to the highest bidder?

americans are so conditionned to scapegoat their own problems to another country while their own privacy is as solid as a broken glass.

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5474524 t1_iu94gus wrote

Because I'd rather have an American tech company own all of my personal and sensitive data than an antagonistic, Russia/North Korea/Iran-aligned country that we could potentially go to war with within the next century. In the United States, tech companies are privately-owned and largely answer to themselves, only really answering to the United States when they're up to some shady shit - if that. In China, companies are effectively treated as a branch of the CCP at the end of the day. They aren't independent companies in the traditional sense. If the CCP wants information, these companies will gladly hand it over, because it would be against the law not to. You can't point at Apple and say "this company IS the United States government", but you can do that to a Chinese-owned company and be right about it.

The terrorism implications with the latter are scary as shit. It's not just browsing history and harmless data, it's the profile that you can put together of people using that data to allow you to eventually connect the dots to the truly dangerous information, like social security numbers, passwords, medical data, financial information, et cetera. If you have the personal information of every citizen of a foreign country, and you're able to build enough of a profile off of provided information that you can do some truly dangerous things with it, then you effectively have that country by the balls - it just becomes a matter of when/if you squeeze.

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seattlesk8er t1_iua3jzm wrote

That American tech company is going to sell your data to the highest bidder.

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brienzee t1_iubtmmt wrote

People don’t get the fact that all this info is already openly available to China through American companies. People don’t give a shit about their data they just wanna push China is bad. I’m not saying China is good or bad but most people’s argument against tiltok is pretty disingenuous just parroting American propaganda, TikTok is bad because it takes away market share from all the American companies that want your data, end of story.

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benito_fusilloni t1_iubw6ej wrote

People also don’t understand that China doesn’t give two shits about them and is too busy lifting their citizens out of poverty to care about the doom scrolling of the average American plummeting towards poverty.

America will sell it any way they can though.

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RealPain43 t1_iubzfgy wrote

What could be harmless to you now could be dangerous to you in the distant future. We already see how old Tweets get people into trouble. You might not be a person in power now but 10 years down the line you might have some successful position and if your location data was showing you hanging out on street corners in red light districts back when you were younger then that could be used to frame you by bad actors.

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asdfafdsg t1_iu8yqu1 wrote

There is none. Now watch the downvotes roll in from xenophobic idiots with a black and white view of the world

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benito_fusilloni t1_iubw9sq wrote

They don’t even have black and white views because that would still require them to form opinions. Their views are skewed red white and blue.

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Daimakku1 t1_iu9fx01 wrote

People do not care as long as you entertain them. The app could literally say "We are going to spy your every move and every thing you do on your phone" and people would still agree to install it if they know its an entertaining app.

Apathy is why things are so sh*t in so many aspects of life.

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arexfung t1_iu8z4vx wrote

Depends. Do young soldiers have it on their phones while out on patrol somewhere?

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ShakespearesFrench t1_iu8gfg3 wrote

Never forget…https://archive.ph/2020.07.12-074312/https://imgur.com/a/AIIbbPs

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kragmoor t1_iuazby4 wrote

a major tech company doing major tech company things, the only reason this has its own article is because it's a foreign company instead of one offering its data up wholesale to the us government

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745395 t1_iu85c4m wrote

Oh no, big bad red communist socialist evil China. Way scarier than America is doing to Americans by way of Facebook, Twitter, Google, Amazon, and the entire US government. oh nooooooooo!

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mrbaryonyx t1_iu9qs2c wrote

zoomers when the thing they don't like is doing something bad: "oh my god this needs to be cancelled!"

zoomers when the thing they like is doing something bad: "who cares the american government does bad things too!"

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StreetCornVendor t1_iu864ro wrote

So it’s okay to let the notoriously evil country continue their surveillance of foreigners.

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Pfandfreies_konto t1_iu8e78j wrote

I think his point is: the same measures should be taken for domestic entities. It's bad no matter who does it.

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goalpost_mover t1_iu8xbxz wrote

Yeah, but this article is about TikTok. Whataboutisms only deflect from the topic.

>It's bad no matter who does it.

Agree. I'd hope the CCP shill above you says the same thing about TikTok when Facebook is mentioned.

Oh wait... 😲

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Edit: And downvotes aren't gonna change the truth, son.

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January28thSixers t1_iu8epbw wrote

I don't live in China so I don't really give a fuck if they're tracking me. Google or Facebook are here and report to the American government, where I actually live.

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Lille7 t1_iu8jf9f wrote

Are you talking about america or china?

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benito_fusilloni t1_iubwlf9 wrote

Which country are we talking about? You’re going to have to be more specific. The one fighting a proxy war that can’t be one or the one shockingly pulling citizens out of poverty?

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