Submitted by 3loves9 t3_yehcg4 in technology
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Bubbagumpredditor t1_ity68dn wrote
Except they clearly do, other than in the legal fine print at the bottom.
UsedToBsmart t1_ity6eto wrote
There are a few examples in the story where Tesla/Musk are saying itâs self driving, including this one:
A video currently on the companyâs website says: âThe person in the driverâs seat is only there for legal reasons. He is not doing anything. The car is driving itself.â
The issue isnât that the functionality caused some crashes, the issue is that itâs being sold as something that itâs not.
EDIT: here the video on Teslaâs website showing the driver âonly being in the drivers seat for legal reasonsâ:
DragoBTC t1_ity6h9b wrote
Can you show me where they do? They don't even advertise. Literally do not give money to any media outlet. GM, Ford, Oil companies, politicians, etc do. Show me where they actually do. I'll wait.
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DragoBTC t1_ity7a9y wrote
It's a name, given to the software, not what the product actually does. I guess they could rename it, but no where do they say it actually does it. I own one and bought it. No where does it say it does it. Let's see where the DOJ goes with this.
LivingTribu t1_ity7yzq wrote
Didn't have to wait long
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pandemicpunk t1_ity8gsf wrote
> It's a name, not what the product actually does.
False advertising then. Reading you loud and clear.
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Western-Image7125 t1_ity9kpl wrote
Bro youâre getting into a nuanced argument with a guy whose name is DragoBTC. AssPennies is still a much better name - cuz everyone loves Ass but you have to be a special kind of moron to still love bitcoin
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thisispainful76 t1_ity9tl7 wrote
You know in lots of places those products you describe are illegal.
Ramenorwhateverlol t1_ity9vef wrote
Red Bull lost a case when they claimed âRed Bull gives you wingsâ.
Plzbanmebrony t1_itya7ze wrote
Nothing will happen because the limits are spelled out. It doesn't help about the misinformation about how functional it is.
JacksonCM t1_ityabaf wrote
> itâs a name given to the software, not what the product actually does
âBurritoâ is just a name I give to my product even though itâs actually a bagel lmao
Sea_Perspective6891 t1_ityao1h wrote
It is also still in beta which allot of people seem to forget.
tboutin t1_itybbyu wrote
Why are you defending them so much? Are you an employee at Tesla or something? These cars aren't saving lives
Bubbagumpredditor t1_itybkkp wrote
Hey,this might even be the original asspenny guy
ShillingAndFarding t1_itycdyl wrote
If I produced a âhigh protein, calorie dense recipeâ energy bar would that be reasonably interpreted as a description or simply the name of the recipe.
Western-Image7125 t1_itycxw3 wrote
I donât know who or what that is, Iâm not too good with pop culture
tmp04567 t1_itycza2 wrote
It's currently a driving assist (it can do a lot but not everything, esp off roading). Maybe they shouldn't call it a self driving yet. Maybe in 10+ years. Imho it's an advertizing and naming issue. They're at the edge of tech and progressing, but only so much can be done today. A driver need to stay at the wheel to avoid eventual mistakes.
> Tesla, which disbanded its media relations department in 2020, did not respond to written questions from Reuters on Wednesday.
Tssk tssk
simple_test t1_ityezwy wrote
The article says the opposite. The supposed misinformation being from Tesla.
simple_test t1_ityf4u6 wrote
The article clearly proves you are wrong - Tesla itself claims that the driver is there only for âlegal reasonsâ.
simple_test t1_ityf8tg wrote
Exactly why they are getting sued
Snoo93079 t1_ityf9ke wrote
Just calling things beta doesn't free you from responsibility.
XxRocky88xX t1_ityfkys wrote
Yeah itâs a lot different when itâs just a game and the unfinished state doesnât matter.
Kinda need to have a functioning product when youâre dealing with something automated 2 ton death machines
Plzbanmebrony t1_ityhm93 wrote
No misinformation spread on here. Bugs and shortcomings years after being fix are talked about as if still there. No one has a firm gasp on how functional the current FSD is.
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supercali45 t1_ityi8ej wrote
Doesnât stop Musk from pumping that lie over and over .. itâs cumming itâs cumming and his lemmings lap it all up over their lips and faces
WilliamMorris420 t1_ityj46w wrote
Tesla's Full Self Driving has been commimg later this year or early next year for about the last ten years.
WilliamMorris420 t1_ityjekh wrote
But he can't change his name. There are people who transitioned their gender years ago. Still using the same username that references their old gender because thry can't change it and have too much karma on their main account, to lose it. As once you get over 100K comment or post. Reddit gets a bit more interesting.
DonQuixBalls t1_ityjhof wrote
Like Vitamin Water?
Tarcye t1_ityk40f wrote
Nor have I ever been asked if I wanted to be a part of this beta. or other people too.
Kind of the problem. As someone who rides a motorcycle in the summer months Tesla's are the single biggest danger for me followed by Chevy Suburbans.
IF you ride a motorcycle you are naturally assuming more risks. That's just the way it is. But I've had so many close calls when it comes to Tesla's some with FSD some without, that I've started to adopt a "Get the fuck away" Rule when I see a Tesla.
I will always put another car between myself and a Tesla.
CrypoFiend t1_itykv12 wrote
Sponsored by vehicle manufacturers who refuse to research auto pilot.
Plzbanmebrony t1_itylves wrote
It does when that implies it isn't complete.
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random-incident t1_itysbwx wrote
Do you think the hardware is the limiting factor?
SixPooLinc t1_itytq61 wrote
Just because it's about Musk doesn't make an article about a year old investigation any more relevant.
Physical-Bill7793 t1_ityu5ff wrote
The article appears to be grasping for straws with a year old news. Hope the stock goes down for my entry... Tesla is not going anywhere next 10 years
User9705 t1_itywjl2 wrote
Ya the punishment will be a one way trip to Mars, the future of soon to be early belters once the rich move in.
Cryonix12 t1_itz0odh wrote
How did you know they Teslas were running fsd when having these close calls?
Sampson437 t1_itz3k78 wrote
I remember when r/technology had cool stuff about new cool technology.
DragoBTC t1_itz47fc wrote
I own one because it's the safest car made. Statistics don't lie. Guess you never have known anyone to die in a car accident or been in one.
Bobberfrank t1_itzf6v3 wrote
âIâll waitâ aged incredibly poorly
grizzly_teddy t1_itzn23l wrote
Yes they also require you to put hands on the wheel, have lots of warnings telling you about limitations, etc.
grizzly_teddy t1_itzn8am wrote
> The car is driving itself.
That's not inaccurate... it IS. Does it say, "It can always drive itself always under any and all conditions"?
Martin8412 t1_itzpm6u wrote
It's the safest car according to Tesla.
Sea_Perspective6891 t1_itztnd8 wrote
Not saying it does. But people shouldn't attack a product if its unfinished. The people using FSD are just beta testing it so it won't be perfect for some time. I also expect the final product will still have issues. The beta title is mostly just a disclaimer that is supposed to prevent this kind of stuff.
thruster_fuel69 t1_itzuzie wrote
Can confirm, hate Elon love tesla. He's great at disrupting, massively bad at maintaining and growing in calm times.
Super excited to buy a tesla for Christmas though, honestly the best car rn.
UsedToBsmart t1_itzybr5 wrote
You missed the first two sentences. You know where it says the driver is ONLY there for legal reasons and is doing nothing.
Snoo93079 t1_iu01djf wrote
People should attack a product if it putting people in danger, which this is.
ImmortalDayMan t1_iu020tc wrote
Twitter users finding Reddit.
Sea_Perspective6891 t1_iu09irr wrote
Have any proof of that or are you just falling for Dan O'Dowds FSD attack ads?
Snoo93079 t1_iu0ju79 wrote
I don't know who that is.
tboutin t1_iu0lhvn wrote
No I haven't because modern cars are safe. You just proved my point.
tboutin t1_iu0lnht wrote
How safe is it when you are in the middle of the highway with no charging station in miles? You'll be fucked. And good luck pushing that thing
Shadownerf t1_iu0qc83 wrote
Unless Inaros is born early
aidanpryde98 t1_iu0x8cx wrote
What's the problem?
Self driving is a year away. â˘
ranguyen t1_iu0yi43 wrote
It's the safest car in the world according to government agencies actually.
ElectronicHorse3219 t1_iu1ms0z wrote
There are warnings everywhere. Article is garbage.
TheCrimsonFreak t1_iu1nsys wrote
Imagine defending Muskrat, lol. Cope.
ScenicAndrew t1_iu1rggx wrote
Yes, Tesla cars are straight up not equipped to see the world better than a person in the driver seat can, which is kind of sad because human drivers actually have very limited vision. Luckily other autonomous cars are equipped differently.
simple_test t1_iu1xpmz wrote
They literally said the human is required only for legal reasons. So what if they also had warnings? Doesnât mean they didnât mislead elsewhere.
random-incident t1_iu2djtq wrote
Who is the closest to actual full self driving?
ScenicAndrew t1_iu31nce wrote
Google Owned company waymo probably on account of them being street legal, had a big study that showed they're quite possibly already past the "better than people" phase, and definitely have better public image so adoption might go easier. But I don't follow all the players. Who knows maybe apple gets there first.
DragoBTC t1_ity5s1y wrote
Except they don't claim that.... 𤣠Waste of tax dollars investigating a product that actually saves lives. Go to Idiots in cars subreddit. Autopilot doesn't do any of that. Humans do