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Butterbuddha t1_iu05xrm wrote

Reply to comment by TheJadedSF in Down on chips, Toyota goes back to basics with car keys by Risay117

Idk keyless ignition is pretty nice. Especially on my motorcycle I already have my hands full putting on my helmet and gloves, being able to leave my fob in my pocket is sweet peas.

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TheJadedSF t1_iu08qw7 wrote

Phone key gives you keyless ignition too, minus the extra thing to put in your pocket or forget in the house...

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JDD4318 t1_iu1b2bu wrote

what happens when your phone dies?

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TheJadedSF t1_iu1jqj4 wrote

Have never had that happen but I also carry my card key in my wallet just in case (Tesla Model 3).

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happyscrappy t1_iu24jku wrote

Depends on the phone. On an iPhone or Apple Watch there is a chance it will still work. The device keeps your "key" information in memory when entering low power mode. That might get you through the day.

I expect some Android phones do this too.

Or it might not.

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ChalupaCabre t1_iu2i47g wrote

What happens when the fob dies?

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Knightforlife t1_iu2r3gi wrote

My fob has a key inside. So I can still open and drive my car.

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ChalupaCabre t1_iu32dip wrote

Mine has a key too… but I’m fairly certain it’s only for the doors. No way to start the car with it.

(2018 Nissan Leaf)

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maybeinoregon t1_iu2qadf wrote

BMW (bikes) includes with their fob a really thin key for this event. You place it near the radio transmitter, and you can start bike etc. They call it a wallet key, and tell you to carry it with you. I must have been (accidentally) giving the service advisor an are you fing kidding me look when he was explaining the wallet key, as he stopped short and said, yea I know, why not just use a key to begin with? Lol

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maybeinoregon t1_iu2mgk8 wrote

I have keyless and key BMW bikes, and this I know…a key works 100% of the time. A fob doesn’t work - for an infinite amount of reasons - at the most inconvenient time lol.

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Butterbuddha t1_iu3qgla wrote

True but in that scenario can’t you click in a code and ride off anyways? I can in my Harley. Certainly more convenient to immediately replace the battery rather than keep doing that, though.

I just replaced the battery just recently as a matter of fact, the bike was slow to wake up when I switched on the ignition so I knew it was getting to be that time. The kick in the nuts is also replacing the spare fob battery too which I used literally zero times lol but better safe than sorry!

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maybeinoregon t1_iu431bc wrote

No, they give you a skinny wallet key (looks like a key, about as thick as a credit card) to put near the radio transmitter to unlock and start the bike. And you have to do it without moving the bike, or you might set off the alarm.

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Butterbuddha t1_iu44p72 wrote

That’s crazy. You would think Bimmer would have an electrical back up and Harley would have a key. Instead I have to remember a 5000 click sequence. Go figure.

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