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misatillo t1_isc6q4a wrote

Reply to comment by _dm_me_ur_tits in Apple slapped with a $19 million fine in Brazil for not selling iPhones with a charger by mepper

Honest question: does the phone come with the cable like everywhere else? If so you can use any charger you have lying around. It’s probably normal usb.

Not that I think it’s ok to not sell it with the charger but you’re not forced to buy one from them either.

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SUPRVLLAN t1_isd53da wrote

> does the phone come with the cable like everywhere else?

Yes it does.

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_dm_me_ur_tits t1_iscdswd wrote

It does, yeah

But the principle of compra casada is that the consumer must not require another product from the same brand in order to use a product, so it doesn't matter if the consumer already has a charger

You could plug the USB into a computer, but you could argue that that's bad, since you're gonna get a slower charging speed than actual chargers. That bad experience could coerce the consumer to buy an actual Apple charger

The law protects the consumer, makes sure a company can't force you to buy two of its products. There are only two ways out for Apple, they either put a USB-C on the iPhone, or add the charger back

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SUPRVLLAN t1_isd57qr wrote

You don’t have to buy an Apple charger though. iPhones work with any charger.

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UnhelpfulMoron t1_isdhex0 wrote

Which is why this ruling makes no sense to me.

They give you the cord which lets you plug into any usb-c power brick. My house has like 5 of them, some apple some not.

I don’t want another. It’s unnecessary e-waste. The planet dammit doesn’t need every single person who purchases an iPhone to be given another bloody piece of e-waste to go with it.

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hesaidhehadab_gdick t1_isdszza wrote

okay but now imagine you don't have a charging brick just handy at home, they all broke or you had to move to a new place and needed to restart from scratch. Now it becomes an issue of having to buy another product in order to use the thing you already bought.

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UnhelpfulMoron t1_ise0p69 wrote

I’m confused as to how this argument makes any sense.

Yes, if something that you need breaks, you need to purchase a new one.

How does that relate in any way to this situation?

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hesaidhehadab_gdick t1_isfo3jo wrote

Its not about having one and it breaks and replacing it.

Its about those who just plain don't have one.

You shouldnt have to buy a phone and then buy another product in order to charge that phone.

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SuppaBunE t1_ise2pzm wrote

That literally what happened to my coworker. She got kick out of her parent hiyse momntook her phone , she buys a new phone, a new samsung, usbc charger cant charge tvw phone now without buying one

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misatillo t1_isdzwgi wrote

I think it’s bad they don’t include. All I’m saying is that you are not forced to buy one from them. So the consumer don’t require another product from the same brand in order to use the product. We also have that law in the EU and they could never do anything because of what I say.

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Bootes t1_isemztl wrote

This was their argument, although they also switched the cable to USB-C at the same time as removing the power brick. So you can’t use the new cable with your existing chargers.

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JimmyM0240 t1_iscdaic wrote

Apple uses it's own lightning charger. It's not a standard USB/USB-C charger.

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sogdianus t1_iscedm6 wrote

The charger is USB-C, the connector on the phone is Lightning. In Brazil the USB-C/Lightning cable is included so you can plug it into any available charger which use USB-C

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