Submitted by marketrent t3_11vzgbu in technology
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iamapizza t1_jcvp1lo wrote
I didn't know this, even back in 2021 India was already leading with the number of internet shutdowns.
https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-global-keepiton-2021/
AverageCowboyCentaur t1_jcvp9jw wrote
In Egypt it's illegal and possibly deadly to use starlink. Eg: The government will come in and take it arrest and/or kill you. Is that the same in India, can't they just get starlink up and running?
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MrBillyLotion t1_jcvr7i5 wrote
That kind of move is really going to motivate the populace to get involved
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Dwarfdeaths t1_jcvuv5t wrote
What do you know, this shut down coincides with an uncharacteristic cessation of spam phone calls from my area code.
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housepuma t1_jcvvxae wrote
Huh! I noticed a big reduction of spam phone calls as of late myself but I don't think it is necessarily this. The accent on the scam phone calls I received was clearly Southeast Asian in origin/
housepuma t1_jcvwcfv wrote
A country as densely populated as India with a lot of its citizenry well-educated in IT, could create their own internet in defiance of the government. I'd love to be able to do this here in the United States but it's infeasible and I haven't gotten any interest.
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cool_slowbro t1_jcw54uh wrote
Meanwhile, scam centers continue to run rampant. :)
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lori_lightbrain t1_jcw97ap wrote
> I didn't know this, even back in 2021 India was already leading with the number of internet shutdowns. > >
how could china do this
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lori_lightbrain t1_jcw9fny wrote
> with a lot of its citizenry well-educated in IT, could create their own internet in defiance of the government.
those people are windup toys who jump at whatever hoops are thrown to them by the westerners hiring them for offshore work. that's very different from coming up with your own mesh network from scratch, which requires multidisciplinary expertise in electrical engineering, hardware radios, networking software, etc. etc.
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unbread2122 t1_jcw9n2e wrote
Let's hope the bandits form their own internet so we're never far away from scam-calls and steve the customer support rep
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No-Perspective-317 t1_jcwa2vw wrote
“Let me search up what he looks like so I can help”
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empirebuilder1 t1_jcwbl4z wrote
"Huh, there's the guy i heard the police are looking for. Sure would be neat if I had some way to tell them where he is."
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Tylerjamiz t1_jcwd8wb wrote
Wait until the US does this
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leoheck t1_jcwfj6b wrote
Imagine turning the lights off instead of turning them on to search for someone...
This is stupid to say the least.
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stepover7 t1_jcwiu8m wrote
only mobile internet
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32ChiangMai t1_jcwjygu wrote
Inconvenience 27 million people to get at 1 person. Sounds about right.
Science_is_Greatness t1_jcwk8zn wrote
no wonder India is such a poor country, with all its backward-thinking policies.
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happyscrappy t1_jcwked7 wrote
Indian government: replaces all currency partly to try to get everyone to use electronic payment systems like paytm (or PhonePe) instead of cash
Same Indian government: shuts down the internet at random intervals thus shutting down electronic payment systems
9-11GaveMe5G t1_jcwkmli wrote
"worlds largest democracy" leading the world in authoritarian crackdowns. Seems fine
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reddit_chaos t1_jcwlh94 wrote
Well, wired internet services still work. So what a starlink provides, won’t matter since internet isn’t completely blocked - only 4G/5G on smartphones is blocked.
thegreatgazoo t1_jcwltcp wrote
Around here the fugitive would have everyone from 10 and older hunting them down wild west style.
Wanted dead or alive. Preferably dead.
H3g3m0n t1_jcwm2a3 wrote
afaik Starlink generally only provides service in countries where there is an legal agreement for them to operate (and probably international waters). If Egypt don't want it they would just disallow it. Or require that it works with their law enforcement requirements.
Ophelia_Yummy t1_jcwmrpz wrote
But in the developing countries… mobile internet is the most crucial internet… at least I know in China, vast majority of e commerce is done via mobile.. if this lasts for two days.. online stores are gonna lose billions
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noun1111 t1_jcwneif wrote
You need a reason to do it.
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cinemachick t1_jcwneq0 wrote
Say what you will about the outsourcing of labor, but it's a bit goache to call them 'windup toys.' It takes skill to execute directions from a different country in a different language to exact specifications, even if the task isn't a higher order of intelligence. Just because they're paid less for smaller jobs now, doesn't mean they aren't capable of learning something more skilled in the future.
rockymountainpow t1_jcwnjll wrote
A whole block eh
LiftingUP t1_jcwnu4n wrote
FUCK YOU I DONT KNOW HOW THE ECONOMY WORKS OR MONEY IM JUST MAKING WILD DECISIONS AND BANS - government
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peedrah t1_jcwo9sy wrote
Can we just clarify that the reason for taking over the police station was because they were holding people way beyond their sentence. Shame that Washington post doesn’t actually do their own research about why people are protesting
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conquer69 t1_jcwoizl wrote
Sounds like people in this region are treated like second class citizens. No wonder they want independence.
Daryltang t1_jcwozjj wrote
India is not in Southeast Asia…
elliuotatar t1_jcwp4dq wrote
All I'm hearing is this guy has tons of support and he's being jailed for his political views, which is all the more reason this is bad.
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sunsinstudios t1_jcwpbmq wrote
Specifically it targets Punjab and Sikhs. The same people that were targeted with farm reform and who started the farmers protest in Delhi.
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TheLizardKing89 t1_jcwq54m wrote
27 million people is a larger population than every US state except California and Texas. Imagine shutting off the internet to all of New York just to catch one guy.
dsbllr t1_jcwqbzl wrote
They're trying to arrest him for speech so exactly that. India doesn't have free speech and I think some people forget that
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NotTheAbhi t1_jcwr4o1 wrote
Starlink doesn't operate here as far as i know. Also i assume the prices is high for a typical middle class family to use it. Internet is quite cheap here.
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Brootal420 t1_jcwrjjf wrote
I mean it's like 2% of the population
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calmtigers t1_jcwroxo wrote
Indian politics have consistently targeted Punjab and its people, especially those who are young and may voice an opinion they don’t like
Liqu1dSnake t1_jcws4yv wrote
Fascist government serving a fascist Malory
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diehard_life t1_jcwsm6f wrote
Yeah calling for assassination of PM is free speech.
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marketrent OP t1_jcvmucl wrote
Excerpt from the linked content^1 by Gerry Shih, Karishma Mehrotra, and Shams Irfan:
>Indian authorities severed mobile internet access and text messaging for a second day Sunday across Punjab, a state of about 27 million people, as officials sought to capture a Sikh separatist and braced for potential unrest.
>The statewide ban — which crippled most smartphone services except for voice calls and some SMS text messages — marked one of the broadest shutdowns in recent years in India, a country that has increasingly deployed the law enforcement tactic, which digital rights activists call draconian and ineffective.
>Three Punjab residents who spoke to The Washington Post said life had been disrupted since midday Saturday.
>“My entire business is dependent on internet,” said Mohammad Ibrahim, who accepts QR code-based payments at his two clothing shops in a village outside of Ludhiana and also sells garments online. “Since yesterday, I’ve felt crippled.”
>In each of the past five years, Indian officials have ordered internet shutdowns more frequently than any other government, according to the New York-based advocacy group Access Now, which issues annual reports on the practice.
>Authorities in Punjab deployed a tactic that is usually seen in another restive Indian region: Jammu and Kashmir. The majority-Muslim region in India’s far north has experienced internet disruptions more than 400 times in the past decade, according to the Software Freedom Law Center (SFLC), a New Delhi-based nonprofit.
^1 Gerry Shih, Karishma Mehrotra, and Shams Irfan for the Washington Post/Jeff Bezos, 19 Mar. 2023, https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/03/19/india-punjab-intermet-ban-amritpal-singh/