Submitted by altmorty t3_124zxmk in technology
Badfickle t1_je4yu04 wrote
Reply to comment by AssortedInterests in U.S. renewable electricity surpassed coal in 2022 by altmorty
eh. Grid scale battery factories are being built quite rapidly and prices are dropping. There's good reason for optimism.
Wwize t1_je52rw9 wrote
It has already been factored in and renewable is still cheaper than coal, even with batteries:
Clean energy is cheaper than coal across the whole US, study finds
>Almost every coal-fired power plant in the country could be cost-effectively replaced by local solar or wind and batteries, according to a groundbreaking new analysis.
omar_strollin t1_je52cc4 wrote
And old EV batteries can be used for home storage as they phase out
trevize1138 t1_je56y5f wrote
I've been told that "dead" EV batteries go to landfills where they leak lead into groundwater. Are you saying that's BS? /s
omar_strollin t1_je5uw98 wrote
:) for anyone who has been misled, EV batteries are very valuable and often repurposed and, if not, recycled.
Just kidding, they’re thrown into day care center and spontaneously combust, killing all inside.
trevize1138 t1_je6dlfb wrote
Dead batteries will de-magnetize your credit cards and give your psycho ex your current phone number.
AntifaDoesntExist t1_je5br3y wrote
these same pricks would be the ones who would thump their chest about nuclear and how "safe" waste storage is.
trevize1138 t1_je5d3zx wrote
Right? Even if the storage issue were solved and nuclear was somehow safe it's also losing out to solar/wind/batteries now strictly on economics. It's becoming a whole new market where power generation and storage can be done very small scale with home solar being so cheap. Nuclear is old fashioned because it's still just massive grid generation. Power is getting democratized beyond that now.
altmorty OP t1_je5ydpw wrote
It's so funny watching conservatives bash renewables and storage, and then quietly install it for themselves. This is while they campaign for more nuclear, while blocking its development anywhere near them.
danielravennest t1_je6nyub wrote
Texas has the most wind and solar of any state in the US. One reason is they have been set up to lease property for oil and gas for a long time. Switching to leasing for wind and solar is straightforward. The land-owners only care that their lease checks clear.
Layer_4_Solutions t1_je6zxjk wrote
They are being built, but they are not being built rapidly.
Price drops have also slowed significantly the last few years.
Badfickle t1_je7iwhg wrote
Well we had a huge spike in lithium prices the last two years which has since dropped as new sources have come on line. Lithium is now 50% the price it has been the past 2 years.
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