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Maximum-Carpet2740 t1_je12k9r wrote

My wife is a senior director over contracting for Sams Club. The problem I observed in her dealings with her team during WFH was that people didn’t work consistently, and were constantly having tech issues, or at least were using tech issues as an excuse to get out of work. They’re hybrid now, and are in office 2 1/2 days a week. Tuesday, Thursday, and half a day Friday.

I myself am a licensed master electrician (I own my own company) who works mostly on the residential construction side of things. I’ve never had the pleasure of working from home except to do my payroll every week. My job is hands on, on location. I personally think all you folks who don’t want to go to the office are a bunch of whiny crybabies.

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SomethingDumbthing20 t1_je16zyj wrote

And I personally think you can go fuck yourself.

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Jokubatis t1_je1jjaf wrote

I like his “I didn’t go to school and took a vocational job route instead that doesn’t let me work from home, so, I’m going to be a whinny bitch about all the people that did and can work from home”

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Icy-Ad-9142 t1_je2ux0c wrote

And there's the elitism from this whole work from home argument. I don't give a rats ass about office workers because they look down on everyone else. It's funny that ya'll try to act like the downtrodden when you are part of a privileged class.

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happybarfday t1_je39mcq wrote

No one shit on people with vocational jobs have to work on-site because of the nature of their job until they lashed out at us like the guy above.

Do you see anyone in here shitting on plumbers or auto repair workers? No, we're shitting on rich CEOs and egomaniacal control-freak bosses.

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Kriticalmoisture t1_je1fnqe wrote

Lol, as an electrician that owns his own shop, I whole-heartedly agree with you. This guy can go fuck himself

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murrrow t1_je1f2bg wrote

Hmm... I've been working remote for 3 years now. There were some tech problems for a few weeks at the start of the pandemic. Haven't really seen any problems in the last couple years. This sounds more like a Sam's Club problem than a whiny crybabies problem to me.

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_catkin_ t1_je1kv9a wrote

Is that really a problem with the employees when they’re not provided reliable tech? You wouldn’t jump to blame the workers if the tech issues happened in an office.

If the employees are lazy I’d call it a recruitment and cultural issue. Why are they not motivated? Maybe higher ups who jump to conclusions aren’t helping.

Anyway all us desk jockeys who wfh means less traffic which surely helps people who do have to get around? Additionally when we work just as well from home making us travel to sit at some other desk is all kinds of stupid.

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tacknosaddle t1_je2c0w1 wrote

Yeah, let's swap out all of his tools for ones from Harbor Freight and then tell him he's a slacker every time one breaks and he has to go get a replacement one.

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Maximum-Carpet2740 t1_je1ui06 wrote

You can spot patterns and it becomes obvious fairly quickly who is legitimately having a one off issue, and someone who is playing the system and just making excuses. The company very quickly at the start of the pandemic provided everyone with hotspots etc because of the constant home internet connection\wifi problems.

Part of the problem is corporate policy itself. I don’t know how much you know about Sam’s Club and Walmart corporate policy but it’s very hard to fire the lazy\problem employees in the corporate\home office space. There’s a whole verbal warning, three written warnings\write ups and coaching etc before you can even be considered for being fired. And the things you have to do to even get a write up have to be ongoing issues, and are pretty egregious from my point of view in the construction industry where people can get fired on the spot for things.

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Living-blech t1_je2lz9k wrote

Part of why people are disagreeing with you is exactly because of the last statement. You're looking at a cooperate/service industry (little hands on in the actual service part, and most can be done from a terminal accessed from anywhere) from the eyes of someone in the construction industry (a VERY hands-on industry where you need to be at the site to do the work).

The problem is that the cooperate policy is so lenient, so people have less incentive to do work constantly. If it were less lenient, you'd have the less lazy people doing their jobs and the lazy ones out of a job. That being said, expecting constant results is unfair in an industry where many customers fail to see you as human, making the job even harder.

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Maximum-Carpet2740 t1_je2ojr0 wrote

I don’t care that people are downvoting me to oblivion because I don’t care about the karma counter, and my comment was made in jest.

Outside of workers possibly being more easily distracted at home, we have research from the pandemic that WFH is really good for the relationship of your in group, (your individual team) but is bad for the interdependent relationships between different departments and how all the sectors of the organization interact. Essentially individual team cohesion goes way up, but out group connections and collaboration suffer massively because you are no longer interacting with or forging relationships with people who work in different departments and on different teams etc. in your day to day. It also makes your job a lot less secure. I think hybrid is a good compromise personally.

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[deleted] t1_je27m9k wrote

So it doesn’t affect you at all but you wrote this huge comment bitching

And who’s the crybaby here?

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ender64 t1_je2skl1 wrote

O/U on this guy getting a PPP loan through his business to spend on a luxury car and high end penis pumps?

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Maximum-Carpet2740 t1_je2uk1o wrote

No loans. I never even quit working at all through the pandemic. I wired houses through the whole thing.

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bahumat42 t1_je2rj9o wrote

>people didn’t work consistently, and were constantly having tech issues, or at least were using tech issues as an excuse to get out of work.

Thats either better technology needed or bad employees, either way thats on the company for making those choices.

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Maximum-Carpet2740 t1_je2shj5 wrote

I employ people.

A lot of people are opportunists and some people like to test the edges to see just what and how much they can get away with.

That being said, large corporations usually have some type of protocol to follow where people are given many chances and where everything is documented before they’re terminated. And they have these processes for good reason. So they don’t get sued. It’s not as simple as just cutting the dead weight.

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happybarfday t1_je39u14 wrote

And coming into the office stops people from being opportunists and fucking around on the job? That shit happens all the time. Either way you can let them go and hire people who will do the job.

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