pilat909 t1_jc0z885 wrote
This will motivate researchers to web scrape to circumvent these restrictions. Twint can scrape tweets and it supports proxies. It can also be multi threaded. A huge hassle and it's prone to breaking when the site changes, but at least there are alternative means to get around this stupid decision.
Puzzleheaded_Read959 t1_jc1irak wrote
Elon is going to buy Microsoft next so he can get GitHub to take down the scraper.
Elon logic.
Origonn t1_jc2a9ha wrote
Nah he's gonna make a joke about its share price and then be forced to buy at that price to avoid SEC.
3vi1 t1_jc35u3j wrote
Microsoft is valued at more than 15x Tesla. Elon couldn't buy a third of MS even if every lender forgot that Twitter's valuation has dropped by half since Musk took over.
SuperSpread t1_jc3x0wo wrote
This. Elon could suck a million cocks a day and charge $500 a pop and still not have enough money after 10 years to buy Microsoft. I'm serious he'd be a a few hundred billion short after sucking billions of cocks - what makes anyone think he could even be a controlling shareholder. Microsoft is worth $1.89 trillion last I checked.
Put another way if all 330 million Americans including the children each tossed in $5K, that still wouldn't enough to buy Microsoft.
DayTradingEdge t1_jc421gc wrote
Tesla is an AI company, a battery company, a solar company and Elon is 100x more intelligent then Gates. The growth rate of Tesla far surpasses the one of Microsoft. Gates could only dream of being ahead of Musk in the next 10 years. Mark my words. Not to mention he has the boring company, building space ships, phones, Twitter might be half the value now, but it will be 10x higher 10 years down the road (this is my Conservative valuation) 🤫😉
scofieldr t1_jc478z8 wrote
Apparently you are already sucking Elon's dick, so he can skip you
OHMG69420 t1_jc1o6kb wrote
How much does a tweet cost? $10? - Musk probably
DevAway22314 t1_jc1s793 wrote
10 Doge
I'm kinda kidding, kinda referencing the fact he actually suggested that
tyler1128 t1_jc1vmhb wrote
I do wonder the legality of offering a side market for buying twitter data scraped from what the website freely gives you. I'm sure those "hacker" forums still sell sock proxy lists on the daily. That plus beautiful soup and not being stupid in how you do it should be both a weekend prototype level project, and pretty cheap. It's been a while since I've done something like that, but socks proxies are a dime a dozen more or less. Now, you are probably utilizing hacked servers, but you aren't hacking them so pleading ignorance would probably do just fine. Plus, Twitter is hardly capable of keeping running now, not sure their scraper detection is exactly "state of the art".
FamousSuccess t1_jc27bzt wrote
I'm not sure if the data will be sold, rather than just tools to gather it.
Even still, from what I've seen in the past not much stands in the way of "ownership" of tweets/FB posts/Social media. It tends to fall in the public IP territory
tyler1128 t1_jc27nqp wrote
I'm personally thinking about writing a service to sell the data at something like 1/10,000th the cost twitter is charging or less. It'd cache most of the tweet data in LRU form up to a specific data limit in a central database, and dynamically grab new data in the case it isn't already there. There's also be a constantly running scraper for new data to throw it in the central DB cache. Only think stopping me is understanding the legal ramifications. On-demand access to historical data is too slow for large cohorts.
FamousSuccess t1_jc2ry05 wrote
Well. Keep in mind that google effectively sells advertising based on user data, and their services/users depend entirely on content and data of non google entities.
So I’d say if google can build a business on other entities public data, so can you.
Not a perfect parallel but a parallel nonetheless
dubiousadvocate t1_jc2jom8 wrote
I don’t think legality enters into it. At worst it’s a EULA violation. Like any public facing website. Grounds for banning the account but these would be throw away accounts to begin. Musk would whine about it but he’d probably also embrace the artificial user numbers at the same time.
One thing we’ve all learned about the man during this debacle is he’s self destructively impulsive and undisciplined.
Mr_ToDo t1_jc2lulp wrote
Well it doesn't use the API, and assuming that it doesn't use a login then it's probably not bound by the EULA since it would all be public data with no agreement to see it.
Could be a bit of fun if it removes the login prompt, but it's pretty random normally and if there isn't an actual hard limit to what you can load then removing it is likely just a technicality at best(It seems more concerned about how long I stare at old tweets then how far down I scroll. I know sometimes I've gone years down if I don't stop scrolling)
dubiousadvocate t1_jc2qc1a wrote
All good points.
haux_haux t1_jc3q8f1 wrote
Didn't LinkedIn sue an organisation for scraping a while back. Did that fly?
bobartig t1_jc42cxs wrote
There’s been a lot of misreporting regarding the recent HiQ v. LinkedIn case from the 9th Circuit. The best write up I've encountered is by an Internet and Web Scraping attorney, Kieran McCarthy
The key takeaway is that in the 9th Circuit (which has the most developed law in this area) web scraping a publicly available website doesn’t necessarily constitute a CFAA violation, but that doesn’t mean what you did was either legal, or that you won’t face legal liability.
dubiousadvocate t1_jc3uc8z wrote
I haven't heard about that. I'm curious too.
Of course anyone can file a SLAP lawsuit and hope to intimidate legal behavior through financial burden.
uglypatiofurniture t1_jc51g9j wrote
I've seen others say that scraping data would give roughly 0.01%. I think this is just a negotiating point for Elon. Hopefully, this blows up in his face like everything else he's done with Twitter.
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